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Originally posted by Congokid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article , Christian M. > Nielsen writes >What are the MSUT SEE sights there? >I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than > modern art >museums. > Amazed that no one’s mentioned Giant’s Causeway and the rest of the > north Antrim coast. But then one historical man of letters (can’t > remember who) did comment that it was ‘worth seeing, but not > worth going > to see’. Have a go at crossing the Carrick-a-rede rope bridge. > I also like the Ring of Kerry but it’s quite busy during summer > months. > And Lough Corrib in County Galway – 365 islands on it, apparently. > — Hey if someone is going to N.I. don’t forget ports Balintoy and > Ballintrae, Bushmills whiskey distillery and the Marble Arch Caves in > Fermanagh, Dunluce Castle ? Carrickfergus Castle ?
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> — Hey if someone is going to N.I. don’t forget ports Balintoy and > Ballintrae, Bushmills whiskey distillery and the Marble Arch Caves in > Fermanagh, Dunluce Castle ? Carrickfergus Castle ?
What are the best Destilleries to see in the Fort William area?? (Scotland) — Mvh / Regards -=< Christian >=- What capital has 164 letters in its name? See my web page to find out. http://www.cmnielsen.dk ICQ: 25308942 " If something’s hard to do, then it’s not worth doing. Homer J. Simpson"
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Had a wonderful tour of Scotland with Cameron Tours last March. He did a customized and economical tour in his van, staying at B&B’s. Highly recommended if he fits your schedule. Barbara in CT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->What are the MSUT SEE sights there? >I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern >art >museums. >In Scotland the best architecture is to be found in the Old town area of >Edinburgh and in the centre of Glasgow. If you want nature travel up the A9 >to Inverness, the scenery is superbly rugged and Inverness is a great town >gary
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Hi PB- Yup- I made a number of errors in spelling and exact locations. You’ve been very careful to correct each one. And criticize some that you didn’t have to correct. And you disagree with some of the things I enjoyed. That’s cool. But you added very little. Since you clearly know quite a bit, why don’t you spend some energy helping by suggesting some things that YOU think the writer might find interesting instead of just the negativity? You probably have a lot to offer. Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Also Doolan – a little town on the west coast (Mayo maybe?)- is full of >Irish music and a great place to spend an evening- or two or three). > I think you mean Doolin, in County Clare — some distance from Mayo! >Be sure to kiss the Blarney Stone. (Do you think I’d have written so >much here if I didn’t get the gift of gab? They even sell you a >certificate attesting that you’ve kissed it and OFFICIALLY have the gift >of gab!) The second time I was there, they had spiffed it up a little >and made it safer-looking (so you can’t fall of the castle wall >upside-down and backwards when you lean over to kiss it. But a little >old leprechaun-looking man holds your feet, so you won’t even feel >(much) that you’ll fall. Part of the local lore is that the local kids >sneak up at night and pee on the stone. Sounds very plausible to me. > Jaysus, don’t go near the Blarney Stone! It’s about as naff a tourist > trap as you can find. >If you like nature, you’ll love a pony and trap ride across the Lakes of >Killarney. A trap is a tiny cart pulled by a pony. The ones that I’ve >been in hold 4 people. You get them at a broken down farm yard where >local men bring their ponies and traps for you to board (wear old shoes >or boots- it’s mucky) and then they guide it over the Gap of Dunloe >which is a ride over a beautiful, barren gap in the mountains. The >scenery is breathtaking and unusual! When we did it, it ended at the >head of the Lakes of Killarney where you transfer to little boats that >take you across the lovely, quiet little Lakes to Muckross House where >your transportation takes you back to town. > They cost a bomb! Use your hire car, and drive slowly (don’t, however, > attempt to cross the lake by car). >Another place I really enjoyed both times I was in the southeast was >the Rock of Cashel- where Brian Boru is reputed to have ruled >Ireland. A walk up a steep road to the ruins. The ruins are beautiful >and moving. The view from the graveyard outside is stunning. > All correct, except for the bit about Brian Boru. He was based in > Kincora, close to the very pleasant small town of Killaloe. >If you like gardens, I’ve heard Powers Court is supposed to be THE place >to see a glorious display. > Good. It’s in Co. Wicklow, just to the south of Dublin. Perhaps better > is Mount Usher, also in Co. Wicklow. >A drive through the area south of Dublin was fascinating- be sure >someone (or a guide book) explains the peat fields and how they’re >stacked and why, etc. > That’s Wicklow, again. You will see more turf-cutting in the west > coast counties. >The Cliffs of Moher, the limestone caves in the Burren, the dolmens- all >in the northwest make a lovely day. > Southwest — Co. Clare. >Ruined abbeys and castles all over >Ireland. (I didn’t stop for EVERY one- but just about!) >Moran’s Oyster Hut just south of Galway City was delicious. >A dinner at Bunratty castle is touristy but if you like that sort of >thing, is was fun. Serving wenches, eat with your hands (and ?maybe? a >fork) medieval music, etc) > It’s better during the day, without the dinner. The folk park at > Bunratty is an excellent visit. >And the Book of Kells- breathingly gorgeous! It used to be that you >could only see it for a brief time as the line is pushed along- but I >hear that they’ve created a whole little room where you’re shown and >told all sorts of things about it before you see it. And that one of the >things is a series of hugely enlarged illuminated pictures of the pages >to get to really "see" them. Would have been nice to have an idea what I >was about to see. >It’s at Trinity college in Dublin which is lovely itself. Just wander. >If it’s open, be sure to look at the long, old, beautiful library room. >(Can’t think what it’s called. It’s where the Book of Kells used to be >displayed.) > The Long Room, in the Old Library. Worth seeing. I believe that its > image was used in the recent Harry Potter film. Look for the Brian > Boru harp there; the national emblem is the harp, and that one is the > model; you will find it reproduced on Irish coins and on letters from > government agencies such as the Revenue Commissioners. > PB
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums. > — > Mvh / Regards
Scotland: For nature/scenery you will be spoiled for choice. My favourite is to drive up the small west coast roads, try from Oban going north up past Port Appin towards Fort William. Maybe Applecross if you have time. Hills, Islands, sea & white beaches. Some people like Glencoe – it is a very ‘dark’ steep sided valley (glen) although maybe that adds to the history (massacre of Glencoe). Loch Lomond (my favourite is the small east coast road) is very pretty, but can be busy if the weather is nice. Numerous other scenic places throughout the Highlands, and the lowlands/borders ars also nice if you like less rugged, more rolling scenery. For architecture, definitely Edinburgh #1 with the castle and lost of old buildings. Stirling is also quite nice. Countless other castles – Eilean Donnan (sp?) on mainland but near island of Skye is probably one of the most photographed. Have fun, and if you are coming late summer/fall remember insect repellant for the Midgies…… Mark
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >One thing to add to those suggested already is the National Museum of > >Ireland in Dublin. I found it (near Merrion Square) to be a fasciating > >glimpse of the ancient Irish past and in a very nice building as well. >It’s > >small so it shouldn’t take more than an hour or so to see. > It is fairly good, and it’s free. It’s on Kildare Street, only a short > stroll from Trinity College. The Museum also has a larger display at > Collins Barracks, about 2 km. away. There is a bus link between the > two premises. > PB >Ahh – So it’s the same museum is it – Not two museum with the same name ? >I did get a bit confused when I saw a sign pointing to the National Museum >of Ireland in the wrong direction – so I ignored the sign 
Usually a good idea in Ireland. >I had assumed that the one at the barracks was a military museum – So is it >just a bigger but similar version of the Kildare street one. (planning my >next visit already)
The Kildare Street premises is relatively small. In fact, it has got a good deal smaller during my lifetime as space was taken from it for other purposes (principally to accommodate parliamentary and government offices in adjacent buildings). When the new museum was opened, I was charmed to find things on display which I had not seen for many years, and much that I had never seen. The cream of the collection is displayed in Kildare Street. >P.S. for anyone going soon – Waiting for Godot at the Gate theatre is very >good. (IMO)
Probably. Nearly everything done at the Gate Theatre is very good! PB
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there?
If you’re big on stone circles, standing stones and stuff, the guy who runs www.megalithomania.com was a wealth of information about Ireland. He noted a stone back behind an Army training range which was well worth the hunt. Other bits which stood out for us were the Cliffs of Moher, the mountain drive from Killarney to Kenmare (there’s another way back that’s a bit out of the way but less stressful), using the train-system throughout the Dublin area for sight-seeing, Kinsale on the south coast, the Rock of Cashel and staying at Dromoland Castle near Shannon airport.
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>One thing to add to those suggested already is the National Museum of >Ireland in Dublin. I found it (near Merrion Square) to be a fasciating >glimpse of the ancient Irish past and in a very nice building as well. It’s >small so it shouldn’t take more than an hour or so to see. > It is fairly good, and it’s free. It’s on Kildare Street, only a short > stroll from Trinity College. The Museum also has a larger display at > Collins Barracks, about 2 km. away. There is a bus link between the > two premises. > PB
Ahh – So it’s the same museum is it – Not two museum with the same name ? I did get a bit confused when I saw a sign pointing to the National Museum of Ireland in the wrong direction – so I ignored the sign I had assumed that the one at the barracks was a military museum – So is it just a bigger but similar version of the Kildare street one. (planning my next visit already) P.S. for anyone going soon – Waiting for Godot at the Gate theatre is very good. (IMO)
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> Since you clearly know quite a bit, why don’t you spend some energy > helping by suggesting some things that YOU think the writer might find > interesting instead of just the negativity? You probably have a lot to > offer.
He already did that. Barbara
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>Yup- I made a number of errors in spelling and exact locations. You’ve >been very careful to correct each one. And criticize some that you >didn’t have to correct. And you disagree with some of the things I >enjoyed. That’s cool. >But you added very little. >Since you clearly know quite a bit, why don’t you spend some energy >helping by suggesting some things that YOU think the writer might find >interesting instead of just the negativity? You probably have a lot to >offer.
I had already posted on this topic. I get the impression that you didn’t really like what I wrote. Be grateful that I didn’t actually point out every error. Do you want a list of what I let pass? The touristy things I would not ever do in Ireland are: – kiss the Blarney Stone; – hire a jaunting car in Killarney – take a "medieval" banquet at Bunratty. They are theme park Ireland, and there are enough authentic experiences available without such things being needed. PB
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums.
One thing to add to those suggested already is the National Museum of Ireland in Dublin. I found it (near Merrion Square) to be a fasciating glimpse of the ancient Irish past and in a very nice building as well. It’s small so it shouldn’t take more than an hour or so to see.
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>One thing to add to those suggested already is the National Museum of >Ireland in Dublin. I found it (near Merrion Square) to be a fasciating >glimpse of the ancient Irish past and in a very nice building as well. It’s >small so it shouldn’t take more than an hour or so to see.
It is fairly good, and it’s free. It’s on Kildare Street, only a short stroll from Trinity College. The Museum also has a larger display at Collins Barracks, about 2 km. away. There is a bus link between the two premises. PB
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Forgot to say it’s this July — Mvh / Regards -=< Christian >=- What capital has 164 letters in its name? See my web page to find out. http://www.cmnielsen.dk ICQ: 25308942 Destiny is not a matter of chance it is a matter of choice
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What are the MSUT SEE sights there? I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art museums. — Mvh / Regards -=< Christian >=- What capital has 164 letters in its name? See my web page to find out. http://www.cmnielsen.dk ICQ: 25308942 Destiny is not a matter of chance it is a matter of choice
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>What are the MSUT SEE sights there? >I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art >museums.
In Ireland, most of the best scenery is to be found on the west coast — almost anywhere along that coast. Dublin has some good Georgian architecture. What about historic sites and social life? We do some good stuff in those areas. PB
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> In Ireland, most of the best scenery is to be found on the west coast > — almost anywhere along that coast.
OK; Thx a lot. > Dublin has some good Georgian architecture. > What about historic sites and social life? We do some good stuff in > those areas.
I like historical stuff better that social life (if it’s the same as night life??) Of cource I’ll see your night life too, but it’s not the main reason for me to travel there. — Mvh / Regards -=< Christian >=- What capital has 164 letters in its name? See my web page to find out. http://www.cmnielsen.dk ICQ: 25308942 Destiny is not a matter of chance it is a matter of choice
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In Ireland, most of the best scenery is to be found on the west coast > — almost anywhere along that coast. >OK; Thx a lot. > Dublin has some good Georgian architecture. > What about historic sites and social life? We do some good stuff in > those areas. >I like historical stuff better that social life (if it’s the same as night >life??) Of cource I’ll see your night life too, but it’s not the main reason >for me to travel there.
Newgrange/Knowth is a must. Recommended: Glendalough; the Rock of Cashel; Clonmacnoise. Worth seeing if you are in the area: Gallarus Oratory (Kerry); Bunratty (Clare); Grianan Aileach (Donegal); Monasterboice (Louth); Carrowmore (Sligo). PB
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>Also Doolan – a little town on the west coast (Mayo maybe?)- is full of >Irish music and a great place to spend an evening- or two or three).
I think you mean Doolin, in County Clare — some distance from Mayo! >Be sure to kiss the Blarney Stone. (Do you think I’d have written so >much here if I didn’t get the gift of gab? They even sell you a >certificate attesting that you’ve kissed it and OFFICIALLY have the gift >of gab!) The second time I was there, they had spiffed it up a little >and made it safer-looking (so you can’t fall of the castle wall >upside-down and backwards when you lean over to kiss it. But a little >old leprechaun-looking man holds your feet, so you won’t even feel >(much) that you’ll fall. Part of the local lore is that the local kids >sneak up at night and pee on the stone. Sounds very plausible to me.
Jaysus, don’t go near the Blarney Stone! It’s about as naff a tourist trap as you can find. >If you like nature, you’ll love a pony and trap ride across the Lakes of >Killarney. A trap is a tiny cart pulled by a pony. The ones that I’ve >been in hold 4 people. You get them at a broken down farm yard where >local men bring their ponies and traps for you to board (wear old shoes >or boots- it’s mucky) and then they guide it over the Gap of Dunloe >which is a ride over a beautiful, barren gap in the mountains. The >scenery is breathtaking and unusual! When we did it, it ended at the >head of the Lakes of Killarney where you transfer to little boats that >take you across the lovely, quiet little Lakes to Muckross House where >your transportation takes you back to town.
They cost a bomb! Use your hire car, and drive slowly (don’t, however, attempt to cross the lake by car). >Another place I really enjoyed both times I was in the southeast was >the Rock of Cashel- where Brian Boru is reputed to have ruled >Ireland. A walk up a steep road to the ruins. The ruins are beautiful >and moving. The view from the graveyard outside is stunning.
All correct, except for the bit about Brian Boru. He was based in Kincora, close to the very pleasant small town of Killaloe. >If you like gardens, I’ve heard Powers Court is supposed to be THE place >to see a glorious display.
Good. It’s in Co. Wicklow, just to the south of Dublin. Perhaps better is Mount Usher, also in Co. Wicklow. >A drive through the area south of Dublin was fascinating- be sure >someone (or a guide book) explains the peat fields and how they’re >stacked and why, etc.
That’s Wicklow, again. You will see more turf-cutting in the west coast counties. >The Cliffs of Moher, the limestone caves in the Burren, the dolmens- all >in the northwest make a lovely day.
Southwest — Co. Clare. >Ruined abbeys and castles all over >Ireland. (I didn’t stop for EVERY one- but just about!) >Moran’s Oyster Hut just south of Galway City was delicious. >A dinner at Bunratty castle is touristy but if you like that sort of >thing, is was fun. Serving wenches, eat with your hands (and ?maybe? a >fork) medieval music, etc)
It’s better during the day, without the dinner. The folk park at Bunratty is an excellent visit. >And the Book of Kells- breathingly gorgeous! It used to be that you >could only see it for a brief time as the line is pushed along- but I >hear that they’ve created a whole little room where you’re shown and >told all sorts of things about it before you see it. And that one of the >things is a series of hugely enlarged illuminated pictures of the pages >to get to really "see" them. Would have been nice to have an idea what I >was about to see. >It’s at Trinity college in Dublin which is lovely itself. Just wander. >If it’s open, be sure to look at the long, old, beautiful library room. >(Can’t think what it’s called. It’s where the Book of Kells used to be >displayed.)
The Long Room, in the Old Library. Worth seeing. I believe that its image was used in the recent Harry Potter film. Look for the Brian Boru harp there; the national emblem is the harp, and that one is the model; you will find it reproduced on Irish coins and on letters from government agencies such as the Revenue Commissioners. PB
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>>Dublin has some good Georgian architecture. >What about historic sites and social life? We do some good stuff in >those areas. >. . . and how about Trinity College? I enjoyed that when we were >there.
Included. The buildings which contribute most to its character are Georgian. PB
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums.
In Scotland the best architecture is to be found in the Old town area of Edinburgh and in the centre of Glasgow. If you want nature travel up the A9 to Inverness, the scenery is superbly rugged and Inverness is a great town gary
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums. > Mvh / Regards
My favorites are Donegal & the cliffs at Bunglass also the ruins from stone age to medieval north of Dublin for Ireland. In Scotland just wander the highlands and go to the islands if you have time. Frank Matthews
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums. > Mvh / Regards
My favorites are Donegal & the cliffs at Bunglass also the ruins from stone age to medieval north of Dublin for Ireland. In Scotland just wander the highlands and go to the islands if you have time. I would have sent to you as well but couldn’t decipher your address. Frank Matthews
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Or drive from Glasgow to Fort William on the A82 – that’s a famous journey. Love the Isle of Skye. Also some amazing beaches on the west coast of Scotland. Not something that you hear much about but true nonetheless.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern > art > museums. > In Scotland the best architecture is to be found in the Old town area of > Edinburgh and in the centre of Glasgow. If you want nature travel up the A9 > to Inverness, the scenery is superbly rugged and Inverness is a great town > gary
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Hi Christian- They’re two of my favorite countries. Hope you’ll have a wonderful trip! (This turned out to be hugely long but I just kind of free associated. Sorry!) As for Scotland-One of my favorites is the gravesite of Rob Roy in a tiny church graveyard. He’s a national hero but the gravesite is simple. I saw it about 9PM, when the sun hasn’t yet set that time of year. His tombstone reads "McGregor forever!"- a true patriot to an independant (not British-ruled) Scotland. He’s buried next to his wife and kids, as I remember. The "wee kirk" (tiny rural church) is simple and moving. It’s open at night and free but you to put a coin in the light box to turn on the lights- I think. You may only spend a simple half hour- but it’s beautiful and moving. Can’t remember the exact location- but along the east side of Loch Lomond. Not an exciting place- but if you’re interested in history, it’s worth it as part of a nice evening ramble. For fun, visit the Loch Ness Monster "Museum". It’s pretty hokey- but that’s part of the fun of it. Worth about an hour. It’s toward the northern part of the Loch- on the west, I think. If you’re in Edinburgh during the Arts Festival (which may or may not be of interest), you’d likely enjoy the Fringe Festival. The Fringe is a counter-culture alternative to the more formal and traditional Arts Festival- and to me- lots more fun! There are hundreds of all sorts of performers from street mimes and street theatre to beautiful chorales and chamber music in lovely, old churches to experimental theatre to almost anything else you can imagine. Once a small alternative to the more formal Arts Festival, it’s now a major and highly regarded festival of it’s own. Though many tickets are available the day of the event at the local ticket office, many things sell out and need to be purchased on line before yo go. But then part of the fun and enjoyment is just hanging out on the streets with the throngs of street performers (some quite skilled in their crafts) and those there to soak up the atmosphere. Another fascinating event in Edinburgh is the Military Tattoo, a military (mostly bagpipe) musical display and trooping of the colors and military "Acrobatics (like the Gurkhas) and lots of pageantry. It takes place at night in the courtyard of Edinburgh castle. I hate military stuff but this was actually pretty exciting- which is a lot to say since I had a 104 degree fever and chills you wouldn’t believe on a drizzily cold night and I still liked it. Get tickets ahead of time- very popular! Now Ireland is a whole other story. I presume you’re referring to the Republic. There are many beautiful or historic and fascinating things about the North but most tourists don’t go there. If you’re gong to the North, please let me know and I’ll tell you more about what I like there. So- for the Republic- What a treat! The music- available almost anywhere and always. Stop in any bar filled with locals and you’re bound to have a fun evening and great music! The fleadh (spelling?) is the word for the Irish music festivals. They are frequent during the summer all over the country. The National Fleadh is not to be missed but might be later in the summer. I think it moves from city to city- but it’s been in Listowel all three times I’ve been there. All sorts of Irish music events (competitions, performances- instruments and dancing) performances and dances in the evenings for the public). During the days- mostly competitions for all levels from school kids to adults on all kinds of instruments and dancing and singing. Quite informal as many things in Ireland are. Lots of spontaneous street music and standing around listening and drinking (Guiness of course- or lots of wonderful local alternatives) – friendly to everyone. All ages. Also Doolan – a little town on the west coast (Mayo maybe?)- is full of Irish music and a great place to spend an evening- or two or three). Be sure to kiss the Blarney Stone. (Do you think I’d have written so much here if I didn’t get the gift of gab? They even sell you a certificate attesting that you’ve kissed it and OFFICIALLY have the gift of gab!) The second time I was there, they had spiffed it up a little and made it safer-looking (so you can’t fall of the castle wall upside-down and backwards when you lean over to kiss it. But a little old leprechaun-looking man holds your feet, so you won’t even feel (much) that you’ll fall. Part of the local lore is that the local kids sneak up at night and pee on the stone. Sounds very plausible to me. If you like nature, you’ll love a pony and trap ride across the Lakes of Killarney. A trap is a tiny cart pulled by a pony. The ones that I’ve been in hold 4 people. You get them at a broken down farm yard where local men bring their ponies and traps for you to board (wear old shoes or boots- it’s mucky) and then they guide it over the Gap of Dunloe which is a ride over a beautiful, barren gap in the mountains. The scenery is breathtaking and unusual! When we did it, it ended at the head of the Lakes of Killarney where you transfer to little boats that take you across the lovely, quiet little Lakes to Muckross House where your transportation takes you back to town. I don’t remember the company that does them- but you can e-mail the tourist info place in Killarney and they’ll be able to tell you who to contact. Another place I really enjoyed both times I was in the southeast was the Rock of Cashel- where Brian Boru is reputed to have ruled Ireland. A walk up a steep road to the ruins. The ruins are beautiful and moving. The view from the graveyard outside is stunning. If you like gardens, I’ve heard Powers Court is supposed to be THE place to see a glorious display. A drive through the area south of Dublin was fascinating- be sure someone (or a guide book) explains the peat fields and how they’re stacked and why, etc. The Cliffs of Moher, the limestone caves in the Burren, the dolmens- all in the northwest make a lovely day. Ruined abbeys and castles all over Ireland. (I didn’t stop for EVERY one- but just about!) Moran’s Oyster Hut just south of Galway City was delicious. A dinner at Bunratty castle is touristy but if you like that sort of thing, is was fun. Serving wenches, eat with your hands (and ?maybe? a fork) medieval music, etc) And the Book of Kells- breathingly gorgeous! It used to be that you could only see it for a brief time as the line is pushed along- but I hear that they’ve created a whole little room where you’re shown and told all sorts of things about it before you see it. And that one of the things is a series of hugely enlarged illuminated pictures of the pages to get to really "see" them. Would have been nice to have an idea what I was about to see. It’s at Trinity college in Dublin which is lovely itself. Just wander. If it’s open, be sure to look at the long, old, beautiful library room. (Can’t think what it’s called. It’s where the Book of Kells used to be displayed.) Guess I could go on and on- but if I do, you’ll be here til next summer just reading and never get to go on your trip. Have a wonderful trip. I’m jealous!!! Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums. > — > Mvh / Regards > -=< Christian >=- > What capital has 164 letters in its name? See my web page to find out. > http://www.cmnielsen.dk ICQ: 25308942 > Destiny is not a matter of chance it is a matter of choice
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> In Scotland the best architecture is to be found in the Old town area of > Edinburgh and in the centre of Glasgow. If you want nature travel up the A9 > to Inverness, the scenery is superbly rugged and Inverness is a great town
If you wanr REALLY great scenery, continue on past Inverness – go up the west coast, then along the north coast. You might even consider taking the ferry over to Orkney.
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Originally posted by Congokid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article , Christian M. > Nielsen writes >What are the MSUT SEE sights there? >I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than > modern art >museums. > Amazed that no one’s mentioned Giant’s Causeway and the rest of the > north Antrim coast. But then one historical man of letters (can’t > remember who) did comment that it was ‘worth seeing, but not > worth going > to see’. Have a go at crossing the Carrick-a-rede rope bridge. > I also like the Ring of Kerry but it’s quite busy during summer > months. > And Lough Corrib in County Galway – 365 islands on it, apparently. > — Hey if someone is going to N.I. don’t forget ports Balintoy and > Ballintrae, Bushmills whiskey distillery and the Marble Arch Caves in > Fermanagh, Dunluce Castle ? Carrickfergus Castle ?
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> — Hey if someone is going to N.I. don’t forget ports Balintoy and > Ballintrae, Bushmills whiskey distillery and the Marble Arch Caves in > Fermanagh, Dunluce Castle ? Carrickfergus Castle ?
What are the best Destilleries to see in the Fort William area?? (Scotland) — Mvh / Regards -=< Christian >=- What capital has 164 letters in its name? See my web page to find out. http://www.cmnielsen.dk ICQ: 25308942 " If something’s hard to do, then it’s not worth doing. Homer J. Simpson"
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Forgot to say it’s this July — Mvh / Regards -=< Christian >=- What capital has 164 letters in its name? See my web page to find out. http://www.cmnielsen.dk ICQ: 25308942 Destiny is not a matter of chance it is a matter of choice
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What are the MSUT SEE sights there? I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art museums. — Mvh / Regards -=< Christian >=- What capital has 164 letters in its name? See my web page to find out. http://www.cmnielsen.dk ICQ: 25308942 Destiny is not a matter of chance it is a matter of choice
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>What are the MSUT SEE sights there? >I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art >museums.
In Ireland, most of the best scenery is to be found on the west coast — almost anywhere along that coast. Dublin has some good Georgian architecture. What about historic sites and social life? We do some good stuff in those areas. PB
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> In Ireland, most of the best scenery is to be found on the west coast > — almost anywhere along that coast.
OK; Thx a lot. > Dublin has some good Georgian architecture. > What about historic sites and social life? We do some good stuff in > those areas.
I like historical stuff better that social life (if it’s the same as night life??) Of cource I’ll see your night life too, but it’s not the main reason for me to travel there. — Mvh / Regards -=< Christian >=- What capital has 164 letters in its name? See my web page to find out. http://www.cmnielsen.dk ICQ: 25308942 Destiny is not a matter of chance it is a matter of choice
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In Ireland, most of the best scenery is to be found on the west coast > — almost anywhere along that coast. >OK; Thx a lot. > Dublin has some good Georgian architecture. > What about historic sites and social life? We do some good stuff in > those areas. >I like historical stuff better that social life (if it’s the same as night >life??) Of cource I’ll see your night life too, but it’s not the main reason >for me to travel there.
Newgrange/Knowth is a must. Recommended: Glendalough; the Rock of Cashel; Clonmacnoise. Worth seeing if you are in the area: Gallarus Oratory (Kerry); Bunratty (Clare); Grianan Aileach (Donegal); Monasterboice (Louth); Carrowmore (Sligo). PB
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>>Dublin has some good Georgian architecture. >What about historic sites and social life? We do some good stuff in >those areas. >. . . and how about Trinity College? I enjoyed that when we were >there.
Included. The buildings which contribute most to its character are Georgian. PB
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums.
In Scotland the best architecture is to be found in the Old town area of Edinburgh and in the centre of Glasgow. If you want nature travel up the A9 to Inverness, the scenery is superbly rugged and Inverness is a great town gary
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums. > Mvh / Regards
My favorites are Donegal & the cliffs at Bunglass also the ruins from stone age to medieval north of Dublin for Ireland. In Scotland just wander the highlands and go to the islands if you have time. Frank Matthews
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums. > Mvh / Regards
My favorites are Donegal & the cliffs at Bunglass also the ruins from stone age to medieval north of Dublin for Ireland. In Scotland just wander the highlands and go to the islands if you have time. I would have sent to you as well but couldn’t decipher your address. Frank Matthews
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Or drive from Glasgow to Fort William on the A82 – that’s a famous journey. Love the Isle of Skye. Also some amazing beaches on the west coast of Scotland. Not something that you hear much about but true nonetheless.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern > art > museums. > In Scotland the best architecture is to be found in the Old town area of > Edinburgh and in the centre of Glasgow. If you want nature travel up the A9 > to Inverness, the scenery is superbly rugged and Inverness is a great town > gary
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Hi Christian- They’re two of my favorite countries. Hope you’ll have a wonderful trip! (This turned out to be hugely long but I just kind of free associated. Sorry!) As for Scotland-One of my favorites is the gravesite of Rob Roy in a tiny church graveyard. He’s a national hero but the gravesite is simple. I saw it about 9PM, when the sun hasn’t yet set that time of year. His tombstone reads "McGregor forever!"- a true patriot to an independant (not British-ruled) Scotland. He’s buried next to his wife and kids, as I remember. The "wee kirk" (tiny rural church) is simple and moving. It’s open at night and free but you to put a coin in the light box to turn on the lights- I think. You may only spend a simple half hour- but it’s beautiful and moving. Can’t remember the exact location- but along the east side of Loch Lomond. Not an exciting place- but if you’re interested in history, it’s worth it as part of a nice evening ramble. For fun, visit the Loch Ness Monster "Museum". It’s pretty hokey- but that’s part of the fun of it. Worth about an hour. It’s toward the northern part of the Loch- on the west, I think. If you’re in Edinburgh during the Arts Festival (which may or may not be of interest), you’d likely enjoy the Fringe Festival. The Fringe is a counter-culture alternative to the more formal and traditional Arts Festival- and to me- lots more fun! There are hundreds of all sorts of performers from street mimes and street theatre to beautiful chorales and chamber music in lovely, old churches to experimental theatre to almost anything else you can imagine. Once a small alternative to the more formal Arts Festival, it’s now a major and highly regarded festival of it’s own. Though many tickets are available the day of the event at the local ticket office, many things sell out and need to be purchased on line before yo go. But then part of the fun and enjoyment is just hanging out on the streets with the throngs of street performers (some quite skilled in their crafts) and those there to soak up the atmosphere. Another fascinating event in Edinburgh is the Military Tattoo, a military (mostly bagpipe) musical display and trooping of the colors and military "Acrobatics (like the Gurkhas) and lots of pageantry. It takes place at night in the courtyard of Edinburgh castle. I hate military stuff but this was actually pretty exciting- which is a lot to say since I had a 104 degree fever and chills you wouldn’t believe on a drizzily cold night and I still liked it. Get tickets ahead of time- very popular! Now Ireland is a whole other story. I presume you’re referring to the Republic. There are many beautiful or historic and fascinating things about the North but most tourists don’t go there. If you’re gong to the North, please let me know and I’ll tell you more about what I like there. So- for the Republic- What a treat! The music- available almost anywhere and always. Stop in any bar filled with locals and you’re bound to have a fun evening and great music! The fleadh (spelling?) is the word for the Irish music festivals. They are frequent during the summer all over the country. The National Fleadh is not to be missed but might be later in the summer. I think it moves from city to city- but it’s been in Listowel all three times I’ve been there. All sorts of Irish music events (competitions, performances- instruments and dancing) performances and dances in the evenings for the public). During the days- mostly competitions for all levels from school kids to adults on all kinds of instruments and dancing and singing. Quite informal as many things in Ireland are. Lots of spontaneous street music and standing around listening and drinking (Guiness of course- or lots of wonderful local alternatives) – friendly to everyone. All ages. Also Doolan – a little town on the west coast (Mayo maybe?)- is full of Irish music and a great place to spend an evening- or two or three). Be sure to kiss the Blarney Stone. (Do you think I’d have written so much here if I didn’t get the gift of gab? They even sell you a certificate attesting that you’ve kissed it and OFFICIALLY have the gift of gab!) The second time I was there, they had spiffed it up a little and made it safer-looking (so you can’t fall of the castle wall upside-down and backwards when you lean over to kiss it. But a little old leprechaun-looking man holds your feet, so you won’t even feel (much) that you’ll fall. Part of the local lore is that the local kids sneak up at night and pee on the stone. Sounds very plausible to me. If you like nature, you’ll love a pony and trap ride across the Lakes of Killarney. A trap is a tiny cart pulled by a pony. The ones that I’ve been in hold 4 people. You get them at a broken down farm yard where local men bring their ponies and traps for you to board (wear old shoes or boots- it’s mucky) and then they guide it over the Gap of Dunloe which is a ride over a beautiful, barren gap in the mountains. The scenery is breathtaking and unusual! When we did it, it ended at the head of the Lakes of Killarney where you transfer to little boats that take you across the lovely, quiet little Lakes to Muckross House where your transportation takes you back to town. I don’t remember the company that does them- but you can e-mail the tourist info place in Killarney and they’ll be able to tell you who to contact. Another place I really enjoyed both times I was in the southeast was the Rock of Cashel- where Brian Boru is reputed to have ruled Ireland. A walk up a steep road to the ruins. The ruins are beautiful and moving. The view from the graveyard outside is stunning. If you like gardens, I’ve heard Powers Court is supposed to be THE place to see a glorious display. A drive through the area south of Dublin was fascinating- be sure someone (or a guide book) explains the peat fields and how they’re stacked and why, etc. The Cliffs of Moher, the limestone caves in the Burren, the dolmens- all in the northwest make a lovely day. Ruined abbeys and castles all over Ireland. (I didn’t stop for EVERY one- but just about!) Moran’s Oyster Hut just south of Galway City was delicious. A dinner at Bunratty castle is touristy but if you like that sort of thing, is was fun. Serving wenches, eat with your hands (and ?maybe? a fork) medieval music, etc) And the Book of Kells- breathingly gorgeous! It used to be that you could only see it for a brief time as the line is pushed along- but I hear that they’ve created a whole little room where you’re shown and told all sorts of things about it before you see it. And that one of the things is a series of hugely enlarged illuminated pictures of the pages to get to really "see" them. Would have been nice to have an idea what I was about to see. It’s at Trinity college in Dublin which is lovely itself. Just wander. If it’s open, be sure to look at the long, old, beautiful library room. (Can’t think what it’s called. It’s where the Book of Kells used to be displayed.) Guess I could go on and on- but if I do, you’ll be here til next summer just reading and never get to go on your trip. Have a wonderful trip. I’m jealous!!! Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums. > — > Mvh / Regards > -=< Christian >=- > What capital has 164 letters in its name? See my web page to find out. > http://www.cmnielsen.dk ICQ: 25308942 > Destiny is not a matter of chance it is a matter of choice
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> In Scotland the best architecture is to be found in the Old town area of > Edinburgh and in the centre of Glasgow. If you want nature travel up the A9 > to Inverness, the scenery is superbly rugged and Inverness is a great town
If you wanr REALLY great scenery, continue on past Inverness – go up the west coast, then along the north coast. You might even consider taking the ferry over to Orkney.
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>Also Doolan – a little town on the west coast (Mayo maybe?)- is full of >Irish music and a great place to spend an evening- or two or three).
I think you mean Doolin, in County Clare — some distance from Mayo! >Be sure to kiss the Blarney Stone. (Do you think I’d have written so >much here if I didn’t get the gift of gab? They even sell you a >certificate attesting that you’ve kissed it and OFFICIALLY have the gift >of gab!) The second time I was there, they had spiffed it up a little >and made it safer-looking (so you can’t fall of the castle wall >upside-down and backwards when you lean over to kiss it. But a little >old leprechaun-looking man holds your feet, so you won’t even feel >(much) that you’ll fall. Part of the local lore is that the local kids >sneak up at night and pee on the stone. Sounds very plausible to me.
Jaysus, don’t go near the Blarney Stone! It’s about as naff a tourist trap as you can find. >If you like nature, you’ll love a pony and trap ride across the Lakes of >Killarney. A trap is a tiny cart pulled by a pony. The ones that I’ve >been in hold 4 people. You get them at a broken down farm yard where >local men bring their ponies and traps for you to board (wear old shoes >or boots- it’s mucky) and then they guide it over the Gap of Dunloe >which is a ride over a beautiful, barren gap in the mountains. The >scenery is breathtaking and unusual! When we did it, it ended at the >head of the Lakes of Killarney where you transfer to little boats that >take you across the lovely, quiet little Lakes to Muckross House where >your transportation takes you back to town.
They cost a bomb! Use your hire car, and drive slowly (don’t, however, attempt to cross the lake by car). >Another place I really enjoyed both times I was in the southeast was >the Rock of Cashel- where Brian Boru is reputed to have ruled >Ireland. A walk up a steep road to the ruins. The ruins are beautiful >and moving. The view from the graveyard outside is stunning.
All correct, except for the bit about Brian Boru. He was based in Kincora, close to the very pleasant small town of Killaloe. >If you like gardens, I’ve heard Powers Court is supposed to be THE place >to see a glorious display.
Good. It’s in Co. Wicklow, just to the south of Dublin. Perhaps better is Mount Usher, also in Co. Wicklow. >A drive through the area south of Dublin was fascinating- be sure >someone (or a guide book) explains the peat fields and how they’re >stacked and why, etc.
That’s Wicklow, again. You will see more turf-cutting in the west coast counties. >The Cliffs of Moher, the limestone caves in the Burren, the dolmens- all >in the northwest make a lovely day.
Southwest — Co. Clare. >Ruined abbeys and castles all over >Ireland. (I didn’t stop for EVERY one- but just about!) >Moran’s Oyster Hut just south of Galway City was delicious. >A dinner at Bunratty castle is touristy but if you like that sort of >thing, is was fun. Serving wenches, eat with your hands (and ?maybe? a >fork) medieval music, etc)
It’s better during the day, without the dinner. The folk park at Bunratty is an excellent visit. >And the Book of Kells- breathingly gorgeous! It used to be that you >could only see it for a brief time as the line is pushed along- but I >hear that they’ve created a whole little room where you’re shown and >told all sorts of things about it before you see it. And that one of the >things is a series of hugely enlarged illuminated pictures of the pages >to get to really "see" them. Would have been nice to have an idea what I >was about to see. >It’s at Trinity college in Dublin which is lovely itself. Just wander. >If it’s open, be sure to look at the long, old, beautiful library room. >(Can’t think what it’s called. It’s where the Book of Kells used to be >displayed.)
The Long Room, in the Old Library. Worth seeing. I believe that its image was used in the recent Harry Potter film. Look for the Brian Boru harp there; the national emblem is the harp, and that one is the model; you will find it reproduced on Irish coins and on letters from government agencies such as the Revenue Commissioners. PB
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Had a wonderful tour of Scotland with Cameron Tours last March. He did a customized and economical tour in his van, staying at B&B’s. Highly recommended if he fits your schedule. Barbara in CT – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->What are the MSUT SEE sights there? >I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern >art >museums. >In Scotland the best architecture is to be found in the Old town area of >Edinburgh and in the centre of Glasgow. If you want nature travel up the A9 >to Inverness, the scenery is superbly rugged and Inverness is a great town >gary
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Hi PB- Yup- I made a number of errors in spelling and exact locations. You’ve been very careful to correct each one. And criticize some that you didn’t have to correct. And you disagree with some of the things I enjoyed. That’s cool. But you added very little. Since you clearly know quite a bit, why don’t you spend some energy helping by suggesting some things that YOU think the writer might find interesting instead of just the negativity? You probably have a lot to offer. Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Also Doolan – a little town on the west coast (Mayo maybe?)- is full of >Irish music and a great place to spend an evening- or two or three). > I think you mean Doolin, in County Clare — some distance from Mayo! >Be sure to kiss the Blarney Stone. (Do you think I’d have written so >much here if I didn’t get the gift of gab? They even sell you a >certificate attesting that you’ve kissed it and OFFICIALLY have the gift >of gab!) The second time I was there, they had spiffed it up a little >and made it safer-looking (so you can’t fall of the castle wall >upside-down and backwards when you lean over to kiss it. But a little >old leprechaun-looking man holds your feet, so you won’t even feel >(much) that you’ll fall. Part of the local lore is that the local kids >sneak up at night and pee on the stone. Sounds very plausible to me. > Jaysus, don’t go near the Blarney Stone! It’s about as naff a tourist > trap as you can find. >If you like nature, you’ll love a pony and trap ride across the Lakes of >Killarney. A trap is a tiny cart pulled by a pony. The ones that I’ve >been in hold 4 people. You get them at a broken down farm yard where >local men bring their ponies and traps for you to board (wear old shoes >or boots- it’s mucky) and then they guide it over the Gap of Dunloe >which is a ride over a beautiful, barren gap in the mountains. The >scenery is breathtaking and unusual! When we did it, it ended at the >head of the Lakes of Killarney where you transfer to little boats that >take you across the lovely, quiet little Lakes to Muckross House where >your transportation takes you back to town. > They cost a bomb! Use your hire car, and drive slowly (don’t, however, > attempt to cross the lake by car). >Another place I really enjoyed both times I was in the southeast was >the Rock of Cashel- where Brian Boru is reputed to have ruled >Ireland. A walk up a steep road to the ruins. The ruins are beautiful >and moving. The view from the graveyard outside is stunning. > All correct, except for the bit about Brian Boru. He was based in > Kincora, close to the very pleasant small town of Killaloe. >If you like gardens, I’ve heard Powers Court is supposed to be THE place >to see a glorious display. > Good. It’s in Co. Wicklow, just to the south of Dublin. Perhaps better > is Mount Usher, also in Co. Wicklow. >A drive through the area south of Dublin was fascinating- be sure >someone (or a guide book) explains the peat fields and how they’re >stacked and why, etc. > That’s Wicklow, again. You will see more turf-cutting in the west > coast counties. >The Cliffs of Moher, the limestone caves in the Burren, the dolmens- all >in the northwest make a lovely day. > Southwest — Co. Clare. >Ruined abbeys and castles all over >Ireland. (I didn’t stop for EVERY one- but just about!) >Moran’s Oyster Hut just south of Galway City was delicious. >A dinner at Bunratty castle is touristy but if you like that sort of >thing, is was fun. Serving wenches, eat with your hands (and ?maybe? a >fork) medieval music, etc) > It’s better during the day, without the dinner. The folk park at > Bunratty is an excellent visit. >And the Book of Kells- breathingly gorgeous! It used to be that you >could only see it for a brief time as the line is pushed along- but I >hear that they’ve created a whole little room where you’re shown and >told all sorts of things about it before you see it. And that one of the >things is a series of hugely enlarged illuminated pictures of the pages >to get to really "see" them. Would have been nice to have an idea what I >was about to see. >It’s at Trinity college in Dublin which is lovely itself. Just wander. >If it’s open, be sure to look at the long, old, beautiful library room. >(Can’t think what it’s called. It’s where the Book of Kells used to be >displayed.) > The Long Room, in the Old Library. Worth seeing. I believe that its > image was used in the recent Harry Potter film. Look for the Brian > Boru harp there; the national emblem is the harp, and that one is the > model; you will find it reproduced on Irish coins and on letters from > government agencies such as the Revenue Commissioners. > PB
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> Since you clearly know quite a bit, why don’t you spend some energy > helping by suggesting some things that YOU think the writer might find > interesting instead of just the negativity? You probably have a lot to > offer.
He already did that. Barbara
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>Yup- I made a number of errors in spelling and exact locations. You’ve >been very careful to correct each one. And criticize some that you >didn’t have to correct. And you disagree with some of the things I >enjoyed. That’s cool. >But you added very little. >Since you clearly know quite a bit, why don’t you spend some energy >helping by suggesting some things that YOU think the writer might find >interesting instead of just the negativity? You probably have a lot to >offer.
I had already posted on this topic. I get the impression that you didn’t really like what I wrote. Be grateful that I didn’t actually point out every error. Do you want a list of what I let pass? The touristy things I would not ever do in Ireland are: – kiss the Blarney Stone; – hire a jaunting car in Killarney – take a "medieval" banquet at Bunratty. They are theme park Ireland, and there are enough authentic experiences available without such things being needed. PB
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums.
One thing to add to those suggested already is the National Museum of Ireland in Dublin. I found it (near Merrion Square) to be a fasciating glimpse of the ancient Irish past and in a very nice building as well. It’s small so it shouldn’t take more than an hour or so to see.
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>One thing to add to those suggested already is the National Museum of >Ireland in Dublin. I found it (near Merrion Square) to be a fasciating >glimpse of the ancient Irish past and in a very nice building as well. It’s >small so it shouldn’t take more than an hour or so to see.
It is fairly good, and it’s free. It’s on Kildare Street, only a short stroll from Trinity College. The Museum also has a larger display at Collins Barracks, about 2 km. away. There is a bus link between the two premises. PB
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there?
If you’re big on stone circles, standing stones and stuff, the guy who runs www.megalithomania.com was a wealth of information about Ireland. He noted a stone back behind an Army training range which was well worth the hunt. Other bits which stood out for us were the Cliffs of Moher, the mountain drive from Killarney to Kenmare (there’s another way back that’s a bit out of the way but less stressful), using the train-system throughout the Dublin area for sight-seeing, Kinsale on the south coast, the Rock of Cashel and staying at Dromoland Castle near Shannon airport.
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>One thing to add to those suggested already is the National Museum of >Ireland in Dublin. I found it (near Merrion Square) to be a fasciating >glimpse of the ancient Irish past and in a very nice building as well. It’s >small so it shouldn’t take more than an hour or so to see. > It is fairly good, and it’s free. It’s on Kildare Street, only a short > stroll from Trinity College. The Museum also has a larger display at > Collins Barracks, about 2 km. away. There is a bus link between the > two premises. > PB
Ahh – So it’s the same museum is it – Not two museum with the same name ? I did get a bit confused when I saw a sign pointing to the National Museum of Ireland in the wrong direction – so I ignored the sign I had assumed that the one at the barracks was a military museum – So is it just a bigger but similar version of the Kildare street one. (planning my next visit already) P.S. for anyone going soon – Waiting for Godot at the Gate theatre is very good. (IMO)
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >One thing to add to those suggested already is the National Museum of > >Ireland in Dublin. I found it (near Merrion Square) to be a fasciating > >glimpse of the ancient Irish past and in a very nice building as well. >It’s > >small so it shouldn’t take more than an hour or so to see. > It is fairly good, and it’s free. It’s on Kildare Street, only a short > stroll from Trinity College. The Museum also has a larger display at > Collins Barracks, about 2 km. away. There is a bus link between the > two premises. > PB >Ahh – So it’s the same museum is it – Not two museum with the same name ? >I did get a bit confused when I saw a sign pointing to the National Museum >of Ireland in the wrong direction – so I ignored the sign
Usually a good idea in Ireland. >I had assumed that the one at the barracks was a military museum – So is it >just a bigger but similar version of the Kildare street one. (planning my >next visit already)
The Kildare Street premises is relatively small. In fact, it has got a good deal smaller during my lifetime as space was taken from it for other purposes (principally to accommodate parliamentary and government offices in adjacent buildings). When the new museum was opened, I was charmed to find things on display which I had not seen for many years, and much that I had never seen. The cream of the collection is displayed in Kildare Street. >P.S. for anyone going soon – Waiting for Godot at the Gate theatre is very >good. (IMO)
Probably. Nearly everything done at the Gate Theatre is very good! PB
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> What are the MSUT SEE sights there? > I like nature better than the opera, and architecture better than modern art > museums. > — > Mvh / Regards
Scotland: For nature/scenery you will be spoiled for choice. My favourite is to drive up the small west coast roads, try from Oban going north up past Port Appin towards Fort William. Maybe Applecross if you have time. Hills, Islands, sea & white beaches. Some people like Glencoe – it is a very ‘dark’ steep sided valley (glen) although maybe that adds to the history (massacre of Glencoe). Loch Lomond (my favourite is the small east coast road) is very pretty, but can be busy if the weather is nice. Numerous other scenic places throughout the Highlands, and the lowlands/borders ars also nice if you like less rugged, more rolling scenery. For architecture, definitely Edinburgh #1 with the castle and lost of old buildings. Stirling is also quite nice. Countless other castles – Eilean Donnan (sp?) on mainland but near island of Skye is probably one of the most photographed. Have fun, and if you are coming late summer/fall remember insect repellant for the Midgies…… Mark
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