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• George W.Bush is the god of the guitar !

  Question:

  So vote for him, because John Kerry is too dumb to play a guitar, he even can’t play a flute.

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  > So vote for him, because John Kerry is too dumb to play a guitar, he > even can’t play a flute.

  Hmm, who’s playing bass in this one? http://www.kerryrocks.com/images/Kerry-and-The-Electras.jpg The only thing Bush plays is the public.

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  > So vote for him, because John Kerry is too dumb to play a guitar, he > even can’t play a flute.

  Hi, I thought Bush was tone deaf. Only can listen to his rich friends for them. Deaf to ordinary Joe who lost his job and has no health care coverage for his family. Seniors who has to choose whether to eat or buy prescription drugs from Canada. Struggling single mothers/children. Deaf to global warming ignoring Kyoto accord which even Russia is with. You’re trolling, right? Tony

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  Bush is Punk? Republican punk rockers. In his knee-high Dr Martens and with his head shaved, Michale Graves is the Bush-friendly face of punk rock. He is the front man for the band Gotham Road, which has just kicked off its US tour. On stage he belts out angry, obscure lyrics, but offstage he is also known for his conservative rants and raves. "The leftist radical agenda seems to be resonating loudly from within pop culture and we are at war on many different levels," he wrote in one of his columns at conservativepunk.com – one of several new web sites for Republican punk rockers. Gotham Road is one a roster of bands who are anti-anti-establishment – though they represent a small percentage of the punk scene. They are not raging against the machine – they are raging for it. Although Graves does not fit the image of a young Republican, he makes no apologies for his politics. Core values "I support this government because of our president’s core values," Graves says. "I think he’s bringing the country in a right direction. "Is there a better man for the job? There definitely might be, but from the candidates that we have to choose from in America right now, there’s no better man than George Bush." Nick Rizzuto is another self-styled conservative punk, and the founder of conservativepunk.com. The 22-year-old is a fan of the New York City punk band Bouncing Souls, and has the tattoos to prove it. But he identifies himself as capitalist punk, railing against the left. "I don’t find anything punk about promoting higher taxes and more handouts to people," Rizzuto says. "I would see the conservative viewpoint as being more punk than a liberal one, because a conservative viewpoint places a lot of emphasis on personal responsibility." Anti-establishment When Punk Rock emerged in the 1970s, it identified with youthful rage and rebellion. It was an anti-establishment subculture whose politics often tended to the left. The Sex Pistols embraced nihilism and anarchy, whilst bands like The Clash espoused leftist views. It is not surprising that most punk bands in America today continue that legacy. Around 200 liberal and left-leaning bands, including crossover groups like Green Day and Foo Fighters, have teamed up under the banner of punkvoter.com with the goal of ousting President Bush in the November election. Punkvoter has just released a compilation album of punk bands who are out to attack George W Bush as a liar with their music. Not to be left out, conservative punks also want to inspire their share of the youth vote. Some critics see the emergence of conservative punk as a symptom of just how polarised the US has become in this election year. "This country is as politically attuned as it has ever been," says Anthony DeCurtis, a rock critic for Rolling Stone Magazine. "Often there’s a kind of wilful lack of awareness about political issues in the United States – a sense of ‘What difference does it make?’ "But that attitude does not really seem to be applying right now and punk rock is reflecting that." There is little precedent in the US for Republican punk rock, though there are some exceptions. Ramones Johnny Ramone, the guitarist for The Ramones, has fiercely supported the Republican Party for years. When the Ramones were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002, Johnny took to the microphone to offer his thanks, saying "God Bless President Bush, and God Bless America." For many the idea of George W Bush being supported by punk rockers is a contradiction in terms. But for others, there is something about this phenomenon that makes a perverse kind of sense because of the Bush administration’s hawkish posture. "In a lot of ways in the United States, the Republicans have gotten much more punk rock than the Democrats," DeCurtis says. "The right has become more punk than the left : they’re much more pugnacious, much more aggressive and much more forceful about putting out their ideas and drawing a line in the sand." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1135314/posts

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  > So vote for him, because John Kerry is too dumb to play a guitar, he > even can’t play a flute.

  FYI: John Kerry played bass in a band.  Actual pics, info, mp3: http://www.kerryrocks.com/ Bush got drunk and arrested, wrecked cars, dodged the draft, reputedly did cocaine…  But I don’t think he ever played in a band.

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  Conservative punks? What a *huge* oxymoron!

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Bush is Punk? Republican punk rockers. > In his knee-high Dr Martens and with his head shaved, Michale Graves is > the Bush-friendly face of punk rock. He is the front man for the band > Gotham Road, which has just kicked off its US tour. On stage he belts > out angry, obscure lyrics, but offstage he is also known for his > conservative rants and raves. > "The leftist radical agenda seems to be resonating loudly from within > pop culture and we are at war on many different levels," he wrote in > one of his columns at conservativepunk.com – one of several new web > sites for Republican punk rockers. > Gotham Road is one a roster of bands who are anti-anti-establishment – > though they represent a small percentage of the punk scene. They are > not raging against the machine – they are raging for it. > Although Graves does not fit the image of a young Republican, he makes > no apologies for his politics. > Core values > "I support this government because of our president’s core values," > Graves says. "I think he’s bringing the country in a right direction. > "Is there a better man for the job? There definitely might be, but from > the candidates that we have to choose from in America right now, > there’s no better man than George Bush." > Nick Rizzuto is another self-styled conservative punk, and the founder > of conservativepunk.com. The 22-year-old is a fan of the New York City > punk band Bouncing Souls, and has the tattoos to prove it. But he > identifies himself as capitalist punk, railing against the left. > "I don’t find anything punk about promoting higher taxes and more > handouts to people," Rizzuto says. "I would see the conservative > viewpoint as being more punk than a liberal one, because a conservative > viewpoint places a lot of emphasis on personal responsibility." > Anti-establishment > When Punk Rock emerged in the 1970s, it identified with youthful rage > and rebellion. It was an anti-establishment subculture whose politics > often tended to the left. The Sex Pistols embraced nihilism and > anarchy, whilst bands like The Clash espoused leftist views. > It is not surprising that most punk bands in America today continue > that legacy. Around 200 liberal and left-leaning bands, including > crossover groups like Green Day and Foo Fighters, have teamed up under > the banner of punkvoter.com with the goal of ousting President Bush in > the November election. > Punkvoter has just released a compilation album of punk bands who are > out to attack George W Bush as a liar with their music. > Not to be left out, conservative punks also want to inspire their share > of the youth vote. Some critics see the emergence of conservative punk > as a symptom of just how polarised the US has become in this election > year. > "This country is as politically attuned as it has ever been," says > Anthony DeCurtis, a rock critic for Rolling Stone Magazine. "Often > there’s a kind of wilful lack of awareness about political issues in > the United States – a sense of ‘What difference does it make?’ "But > that attitude does not really seem to be applying right now and punk > rock is reflecting that." > There is little precedent in the US for Republican punk rock, though > there are some exceptions. > Ramones > Johnny Ramone, the guitarist for The Ramones, has fiercely supported > the Republican Party for years. When the Ramones were inducted into the > Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002, Johnny took to the microphone to > offer his thanks, saying "God Bless President Bush, and God Bless > America." > For many the idea of George W Bush being supported by punk rockers is a > contradiction in terms. But for others, there is something about this > phenomenon that makes a perverse kind of sense because of the Bush > administration’s hawkish posture. > "In a lot of ways in the United States, the Republicans have gotten > much more punk rock than the Democrats," DeCurtis says. "The right has > become more punk than the left : they’re much more pugnacious, much > more aggressive and much more forceful about putting out their ideas > and drawing a line in the sand." > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1135314/posts

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  Probably losers looking for a chance to get a foot in the door with clearchannel

  : Conservative punks? What a *huge* oxymoron! :

  : > Bush is Punk? Republican punk rockers. : > : > In his knee-high Dr Martens and with his head shaved, Michale Graves is : > the Bush-friendly face of punk rock. He is the front man for the band : > Gotham Road, which has just kicked off its US tour. On stage he belts : > out angry, obscure lyrics, but offstage he is also known for his : > conservative rants and raves. : > : > "The leftist radical agenda seems to be resonating loudly from within : > pop culture and we are at war on many different levels," he wrote in : > one of his columns at conservativepunk.com – one of several new web : > sites for Republican punk rockers. : > : > Gotham Road is one a roster of bands who are anti-anti-establishment – : > though they represent a small percentage of the punk scene. They are : > not raging against the machine – they are raging for it. : > : > Although Graves does not fit the image of a young Republican, he makes : > no apologies for his politics. : > : > Core values : > : > "I support this government because of our president’s core values," : > Graves says. "I think he’s bringing the country in a right direction. : > "Is there a better man for the job? There definitely might be, but from : > the candidates that we have to choose from in America right now, : > there’s no better man than George Bush." : > : > Nick Rizzuto is another self-styled conservative punk, and the founder : > of conservativepunk.com. The 22-year-old is a fan of the New York City : > punk band Bouncing Souls, and has the tattoos to prove it. But he : > identifies himself as capitalist punk, railing against the left. : > : > "I don’t find anything punk about promoting higher taxes and more : > handouts to people," Rizzuto says. "I would see the conservative : > viewpoint as being more punk than a liberal one, because a conservative : > viewpoint places a lot of emphasis on personal responsibility." : > : > Anti-establishment : > : > When Punk Rock emerged in the 1970s, it identified with youthful rage : > and rebellion. It was an anti-establishment subculture whose politics : > often tended to the left. The Sex Pistols embraced nihilism and : > anarchy, whilst bands like The Clash espoused leftist views. : > : > It is not surprising that most punk bands in America today continue : > that legacy. Around 200 liberal and left-leaning bands, including : > crossover groups like Green Day and Foo Fighters, have teamed up under : > the banner of punkvoter.com with the goal of ousting President Bush in : > the November election. : > : > Punkvoter has just released a compilation album of punk bands who are : > out to attack George W Bush as a liar with their music. : > : > Not to be left out, conservative punks also want to inspire their share : > of the youth vote. Some critics see the emergence of conservative punk : > as a symptom of just how polarised the US has become in this election : > year. : > : > "This country is as politically attuned as it has ever been," says : > Anthony DeCurtis, a rock critic for Rolling Stone Magazine. "Often : > there’s a kind of wilful lack of awareness about political issues in : > the United States – a sense of ‘What difference does it make?’ "But : > that attitude does not really seem to be applying right now and punk : > rock is reflecting that." : > : > There is little precedent in the US for Republican punk rock, though : > there are some exceptions. : > : > Ramones : > : > Johnny Ramone, the guitarist for The Ramones, has fiercely supported : > the Republican Party for years. When the Ramones were inducted into the : > Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002, Johnny took to the microphone to : > offer his thanks, saying "God Bless President Bush, and God Bless : > America." : > : > For many the idea of George W Bush being supported by punk rockers is a : > contradiction in terms. But for others, there is something about this : > phenomenon that makes a perverse kind of sense because of the Bush : > administration’s hawkish posture. : > : > "In a lot of ways in the United States, the Republicans have gotten : > much more punk rock than the Democrats," DeCurtis says. "The right has : > become more punk than the left : they’re much more pugnacious, much : > more aggressive and much more forceful about putting out their ideas : > and drawing a line in the sand." : > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1135314/posts : > : :

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  : : > So vote for him, because John Kerry is too dumb to play a guitar, he : > even can’t play a flute. : : FYI: : : John Kerry played bass in a band.  Actual pics, info, mp3: : http://www.kerryrocks.com/ : : Bush got drunk and arrested, wrecked cars, dodged the draft, reputedly : did cocaine…  But I don’t think he ever played in a band.   sure he did, only whenever it came time to perform he was awol

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  > So vote for him, because John Kerry is too dumb to play a guitar, he > even can’t play a flute. > FYI: > John Kerry played bass in a band.  Actual pics, info, mp3: > http://www.kerryrocks.com/ > Bush got drunk and arrested, wrecked cars, dodged the draft, reputedly > did cocaine…  But I don’t think he ever played in a band.

  I had to chuckle at that one… reminds me of how many… SO many, friends and people I knew in college did drugs… lots, and LOTS of drugs… drank, partied… had car wrecks, ski wrecks, played guitar, had boat wrecks, fell of horses, fell off motorcycles, crashed hang-gliders, dodged the draft,  GOT drafted, played more guitar, did more drugs, drank even more,  got wounded, came back, drank some more, played in bands, did more drugs… ….and lots of them eventually finished college, went to grad school, some got Phd’s, and got married, had kids, worked hard , became successfull, some lost it all and became successfull again, and have nice homes and grandkids on the way…. and some still play guitar. Even the ones that didn’t finish college have done well… some exceedingly well… some, flat out unbelievably well… I think most every one I went to college with… and those I grew up with who DIDN’T go to college, regardless of their life history to date, would make a good president of the USA . But,  not ONE of them ever tried to cheese his/her way into any "glory"…  I know guys  who have recieved Purple Hearts,  not ONE of the them asked for it.   Something about that just stinks up the place…. gtski

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  because John Kerry is too dumb to play a guitar >> John Kerry can play a guitar. Probably better than you.

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  No comments tattoo idea
  
  

• BIG!

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  I got a call from Seymour Duncan yesterday. It seems that one of my customers had used the box his tube shipment had arrived in to send some pickups to SD, and had inadvertently left his invoice in the bottom of the box.  Seymour called me to ask what he should do with the invoice. I said give me the dude’s customer number and then shitcan it – I’ll call him up and tell him to be more careful.  (His credit card number was on it.) Once Seymour found out I was the Great and Powerful Lord Valve, we began to shoot the shit.  He asked if I was familiar with the "BIG" series on the Discovery Channel.  I said I’d seen the promos, but not the show itself. One of the "BIG" items which will be featured on the show is an enormous red guitar.  (And a gigantic popcorn popper.  ???)  The idea behind the show is to feature huge versions of ordinary items – which must be FULLY FUNCTIONAL.  It seems Seymour was tapped to wind the pickups for the Paul Bunyan- sized geetah – which weigh almost 160 pounds each! He had to build a special winding machine to do them with.  He said when the thing was up to speed it sounded like a helicopter. I don’t know when that particular show is going to air, but it sounds like it’ll be a gas to watch.  Keep your eyeballs peeled for it.  ;-) Lord Valve Contemplating a Three Storey B-3…

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  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I got a call from Seymour Duncan yesterday. > It seems that one of my customers had used > the box his tube shipment had arrived in to > send some pickups to SD, and had inadvertently > left his invoice in the bottom of the box.  Seymour > called me to ask what he should do with the invoice. > I said give me the dude’s customer number and > then shitcan it – I’ll call him up and tell him to be > more careful.  (His credit card number was on it.) > Once Seymour found out I was the Great and Powerful > Lord Valve, we began to shoot the shit.  He asked if > I was familiar with the "BIG" series on the Discovery > Channel.  I said I’d seen the promos, but not the > show itself. > One of the "BIG" items which will be featured on > the show is an enormous red guitar.  (And a gigantic > popcorn popper.  ???)  The idea behind the show > is to feature huge versions of ordinary items – which > must be FULLY FUNCTIONAL.  It seems Seymour > was tapped to wind the pickups for the Paul Bunyan- > sized geetah – which weigh almost 160 pounds each! > He had to build a special winding machine to do them > with.  He said when the thing was up to speed it > sounded like a helicopter. > I don’t know when that particular show is going to > air, but it sounds like it’ll be a gas to watch.  Keep > your eyeballs peeled for it.  ;-) > Lord Valve > Contemplating a Three Storey B-3…

  Ah, a B-3 with an elevator and rest room facilities. I’m game. Ed Cregger

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I got a call from Seymour Duncan yesterday. >It seems that one of my customers had used >the box his tube shipment had arrived in to >send some pickups to SD, and had inadvertently >left his invoice in the bottom of the box.  Seymour >called me to ask what he should do with the invoice. >I said give me the dude’s customer number and >then shitcan it – I’ll call him up and tell him to be >more careful.  (His credit card number was on it.) >Once Seymour found out I was the Great and Powerful >Lord Valve, we began to shoot the shit.  He asked if >I was familiar with the "BIG" series on the Discovery >Channel.  I said I’d seen the promos, but not the >show itself. >One of the "BIG" items which will be featured on >the show is an enormous red guitar.  (And a gigantic >popcorn popper.  ???)  The idea behind the show >is to feature huge versions of ordinary items – which >must be FULLY FUNCTIONAL.  It seems Seymour >was tapped to wind the pickups for the Paul Bunyan- >sized geetah – which weigh almost 160 pounds each! >He had to build a special winding machine to do them >with.  He said when the thing was up to speed it >sounded like a helicopter. >I don’t know when that particular show is going to >air, but it sounds like it’ll be a gas to watch.  Keep >your eyeballs peeled for it.  ;-) >Lord Valve >Contemplating a Three Storey B-3…

  That’s so they’ll have to move the venue to the B3 instead of you having to haul the B3 to the venue. Then again, it wouldn’t be that much worse than moving a regular B3. Ron

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  snore…yawn…zzzzzzzzzzz. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I got a call from Seymour Duncan yesterday. > It seems that one of my customers had used > the box his tube shipment had arrived in to > send some pickups to SD, and had inadvertently > left his invoice in the bottom of the box.  Seymour > called me to ask what he should do with the invoice. > I said give me the dude’s customer number and > then shitcan it – I’ll call him up and tell him to be > more careful.  (His credit card number was on it.) > Once Seymour found out I was the Great and Powerful > Lord Valve, we began to shoot the shit.  He asked if > I was familiar with the "BIG" series on the Discovery > Channel.  I said I’d seen the promos, but not the > show itself. > One of the "BIG" items which will be featured on > the show is an enormous red guitar.  (And a gigantic > popcorn popper.  ???)  The idea behind the show > is to feature huge versions of ordinary items – which > must be FULLY FUNCTIONAL.  It seems Seymour > was tapped to wind the pickups for the Paul Bunyan- > sized geetah – which weigh almost 160 pounds each! > He had to build a special winding machine to do them > with.  He said when the thing was up to speed it > sounded like a helicopter. > I don’t know when that particular show is going to > air, but it sounds like it’ll be a gas to watch.  Keep > your eyeballs peeled for it.  ;-) > Lord Valve > Contemplating a Three Storey B-3…

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  >I got a call from Seymour Duncan yesterday. >It seems that one of my customers had used >the box his tube shipment had arrived in to >send some pickups to SD, and had inadvertently >left his invoice in the bottom of the box.  Seymour >called me to ask what he should do with the invoice. >I said give me the dude’s customer number and >then shitcan it – I’ll call him up and tell him to be >more careful.  (His credit card number was on it.)

  You’ll have to see if you can convince your invoice program to only print the last four numbers of credit card numbers on the paper copy that you send with the order. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Once Seymour found out I was the Great and Powerful >Lord Valve, we began to shoot the shit.  He asked if >I was familiar with the "BIG" series on the Discovery >Channel.  I said I’d seen the promos, but not the >show itself. >One of the "BIG" items which will be featured on >the show is an enormous red guitar.  (And a gigantic >popcorn popper.  ???)  The idea behind the show >is to feature huge versions of ordinary items – which >must be FULLY FUNCTIONAL.  It seems Seymour >was tapped to wind the pickups for the Paul Bunyan- >sized geetah – which weigh almost 160 pounds each! >He had to build a special winding machine to do them >with.  He said when the thing was up to speed it >sounded like a helicopter. >I don’t know when that particular show is going to >air, but it sounds like it’ll be a gas to watch.  Keep >your eyeballs peeled for it.  ;-)

  I’ve seen those promos, but I’ve been ignoring the show.  I didn’t realize that everything on the show was functional.  Their promo shows a giant blender, which seemed stupid, but I didn’t realize that it works. I don’t know what night Big is shown on, but I’ll have to figure out when they’re showing that eppisode.  I’d like to see that guitar. Here’s a far less impresive big guitar, because it doesn’t function. The Cheatar, which is based on The Cheat: http://www.homestarrunner.com/cheatar.html (click on the door after Strongbad quits talking) Who’s The Cheat?: http://www.homestarrunner.com/vcr_cheat.html Again, the Cheatar doesn’t work! >Lord Valve >Contemplating a Three Storey B-3…

  The Leslie will be amazing!  But eventually Howie will build a version of it for people who like to "get small". Pete — Time is an abstract concept created by carbon based life forms to monitor their on going decay. –Thundercles

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  This coming Tuesday, at 11:00PM Central Time, on the Discovery Channel: Big! Electric Guitar 60 mins.   A 13-foot-long playable electric guitar is constructed, with help from Seymour Duncan and Matty Baratto. Host: Frank Payne. I’ll have to try to remember to tape that. Pete – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I got a call from Seymour Duncan yesterday. >It seems that one of my customers had used >the box his tube shipment had arrived in to >send some pickups to SD, and had inadvertently >left his invoice in the bottom of the box.  Seymour >called me to ask what he should do with the invoice. >I said give me the dude’s customer number and >then shitcan it – I’ll call him up and tell him to be >more careful.  (His credit card number was on it.) >Once Seymour found out I was the Great and Powerful >Lord Valve, we began to shoot the shit.  He asked if >I was familiar with the "BIG" series on the Discovery >Channel.  I said I’d seen the promos, but not the >show itself. >One of the "BIG" items which will be featured on >the show is an enormous red guitar.  (And a gigantic >popcorn popper.  ???)  The idea behind the show >is to feature huge versions of ordinary items – which >must be FULLY FUNCTIONAL.  It seems Seymour >was tapped to wind the pickups for the Paul Bunyan- >sized geetah – which weigh almost 160 pounds each! >He had to build a special winding machine to do them >with.  He said when the thing was up to speed it >sounded like a helicopter. >I don’t know when that particular show is going to >air, but it sounds like it’ll be a gas to watch.  Keep >your eyeballs peeled for it.  ;-) >Lord Valve >Contemplating a Three Storey B-3…

  – Time is an abstract concept created by carbon based life forms to monitor their on going decay. –Thundercles

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  Screw the guitar, I WANT THE AMP!!!: From the press release: To test the "BIG!" guitar, the team hooked it up to a massive 36 x 10 650- watt Ampeg amplifier. The head houses 22 vacuum tubes. The amp weighs 950 pounds. After guitar virtuoso Peter Frampton tests it out with an enormous stainless steel slide, he, along with Baratto and Duncan provide fans with an extended jam session of massive proportions.

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  Where are you gonna get those big toobs?

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I got a call from Seymour Duncan yesterday. > It seems that one of my customers had used > the box his tube shipment had arrived in to > send some pickups to SD, and had inadvertently > left his invoice in the bottom of the box.  Seymour > called me to ask what he should do with the invoice. > I said give me the dude’s customer number and > then shitcan it – I’ll call him up and tell him to be > more careful.  (His credit card number was on it.) > Once Seymour found out I was the Great and Powerful > Lord Valve, we began to shoot the shit.  He asked if > I was familiar with the "BIG" series on the Discovery > Channel.  I said I’d seen the promos, but not the > show itself. > One of the "BIG" items which will be featured on > the show is an enormous red guitar.  (And a gigantic > popcorn popper.  ???)  The idea behind the show > is to feature huge versions of ordinary items – which > must be FULLY FUNCTIONAL.  It seems Seymour > was tapped to wind the pickups for the Paul Bunyan- > sized geetah – which weigh almost 160 pounds each! > He had to build a special winding machine to do them > with.  He said when the thing was up to speed it > sounded like a helicopter. > I don’t know when that particular show is going to > air, but it sounds like it’ll be a gas to watch.  Keep > your eyeballs peeled for it.  ;-) > Lord Valve > Contemplating a Three Storey B-3…

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  Harm Central article about this guitar: http://news.harmony-central.com/News/2004/Big-Guitar.html Click on the pic to see a closeup view of the thing. Pete – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I got a call from Seymour Duncan yesterday. >It seems that one of my customers had used >the box his tube shipment had arrived in to >send some pickups to SD, and had inadvertently >left his invoice in the bottom of the box.  Seymour >called me to ask what he should do with the invoice. >I said give me the dude’s customer number and >then shitcan it – I’ll call him up and tell him to be >more careful.  (His credit card number was on it.) >Once Seymour found out I was the Great and Powerful >Lord Valve, we began to shoot the shit.  He asked if >I was familiar with the "BIG" series on the Discovery >Channel.  I said I’d seen the promos, but not the >show itself. >One of the "BIG" items which will be featured on >the show is an enormous red guitar.  (And a gigantic >popcorn popper.  ???)  The idea behind the show >is to feature huge versions of ordinary items – which >must be FULLY FUNCTIONAL.  It seems Seymour >was tapped to wind the pickups for the Paul Bunyan- >sized geetah – which weigh almost 160 pounds each! >He had to build a special winding machine to do them >with.  He said when the thing was up to speed it >sounded like a helicopter. >I don’t know when that particular show is going to >air, but it sounds like it’ll be a gas to watch.  Keep >your eyeballs peeled for it.  ;-) >Lord Valve >Contemplating a Three Storey B-3…

  – Time is an abstract concept created by carbon based life forms to monitor their on going decay. –Thundercles

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  "Elvis Kabong discusses the NITWIT John Kerry with his usual uneducated

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  I taped the show on Tuesday night, and it took me a while to watch the tape.  Methods used constructing the guitar and pickup were interesting, particularly since they supposedly did the whole thing in only a few days. Watching Seymour wind the giant pickup bobbins was a blast. The guy hosting the show, Frank Payne was the weakest part.  He may be just what a show about building big things needs, but that’ll be the last BIG! show I waste my time watching. Pete – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I got a call from Seymour Duncan yesterday. >It seems that one of my customers had used >the box his tube shipment had arrived in to >send some pickups to SD, and had inadvertently >left his invoice in the bottom of the box.  Seymour >called me to ask what he should do with the invoice. >I said give me the dude’s customer number and >then shitcan it – I’ll call him up and tell him to be >more careful.  (His credit card number was on it.) >Once Seymour found out I was the Great and Powerful >Lord Valve, we began to shoot the shit.  He asked if >I was familiar with the "BIG" series on the Discovery >Channel.  I said I’d seen the promos, but not the >show itself. >One of the "BIG" items which will be featured on >the show is an enormous red guitar.  (And a gigantic >popcorn popper.  ???)  The idea behind the show >is to feature huge versions of ordinary items – which >must be FULLY FUNCTIONAL.  It seems Seymour >was tapped to wind the pickups for the Paul Bunyan- >sized geetah – which weigh almost 160 pounds each! >He had to build a special winding machine to do them >with.  He said when the thing was up to speed it >sounded like a helicopter. >I don’t know when that particular show is going to >air, but it sounds like it’ll be a gas to watch.  Keep >your eyeballs peeled for it.  ;-) >Lord Valve >Contemplating a Three Storey B-3…

  – Time is an abstract concept created by carbon based life forms to monitor their on going decay. –Thundercles

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  > I taped the show on Tuesday night, and it took me a while to watch the > tape.  Methods used constructing the guitar and pickup were > interesting, particularly since they supposedly did the whole thing in > only a few days. > Watching Seymour wind the giant pickup bobbins was a blast. > The guy hosting the show, Frank Payne was the weakest part.  He may be > just what a show about building big things needs, but that’ll be the > last BIG! show I waste my time watching.

  Yeah, he was a poser. That air guitar shit he was doing made me grit my teeth. The huge machinist with the arm tattoos was a hoot, though. So was the black welder chick.  BTW – did you notice that most of the folks on that show were on the hefty side?  ;-) Lord Valve Big

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  > (snip) > BTW – did you notice that > most of the folks on that show were on the hefty side?  ;-)

  Finally, a show made using REAL Americans for actors. Almost makes me wish I had seen it. Almost. Ed Cregger

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  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I taped the show on Tuesday night, and it took me a while to watch the > tape.  Methods used constructing the guitar and pickup were > interesting, particularly since they supposedly did the whole thing in > only a few days. > Watching Seymour wind the giant pickup bobbins was a blast. > The guy hosting the show, Frank Payne was the weakest part.  He may be > just what a show about building big things needs, but that’ll be the > last BIG! show I waste my time watching. >Yeah, he was a poser. >That air guitar shit he was doing made me grit my teeth.

  Yeah, I didn’t look into who produced that show, but too much of the time was spent on things like that, and not enough time was spent on the planning and construction. The planning that they showed was staged for the show IMO. >The huge machinist with the arm tattoos was a hoot, though. >So was the black welder chick.  BTW – did you notice that >most of the folks on that show were on the hefty side?  ;-) >Lord Valve >Big

  They only had the one skinny guy.  I think his name was "Token". And Seymour is carrying around a few extra Lbs. by now too. I don’t have a clear idea who’s shop those people were from.  They’re probably in every show, building a different big thing every time. Pete — Time is an abstract concept created by carbon based life forms to monitor their on going decay. –Thundercles

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  >> (snip) > BTW – did you notice that > most of the folks on that show were on the hefty side?  ;-) >Finally, a show made using REAL Americans for actors. Almost makes me wish I >had seen it. Almost. >Ed Cregger

  Even though I said I’d never watch another one, I saw that they were building a giant motorcycle this week (part 1 of 2) so I had to watch. It was the same shop of people who built the giant guitar, only this time they were building a giant motorcycle.   And these are fabricators with various metal working skills, so they were like a fish out of water last week.  That big guy with the beard is a machinist, and that big woman is a welder.  It’s unclear what the rest are. Again, the weak point of the show was the time that was wasted on that so called comedian who hosts the show, and pretends to be part of the project. But part one of the motorcycle show wasn’t as obnoxious as the guitar show.  Although maybe if I was a motorcycle enthusiast, I’d have a different opinion. My biggest gripe about the show (other than that host who wrecks everything just by being there) is that instead of really building the things in a larger scale, they’re just making things look big.  And instead of doing a good job, they’re on a deadline. Like on the motorcycle, they don’t have time to construct a large V Harley style engine, they’re building a sheet metal case to go around a Harley engine.  That’s just wrong.  It reminds me too much of that band with the 1" thick Marshall stack stage props. Pete — Time is an abstract concept created by carbon based life forms to monitor their on going decay. –Thundercles

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• Just back from Disney Cruise

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  Great review Vanilla. We’ve done the Disney cruise 4 times now but not the 7 night one yet just the 4 night Bahama break. Even after 4 times it’s still a great experience. Panic

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  I was told in general Disney cruise is more expensive than Carnival or RCI, is it true? Someone would give us the general ideas on the average for 7 days how much Disney cruise cost? Thanks Hai Pham

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Great review Vanilla. We’ve done the Disney cruise 4 times now but not the 7 > night one yet just the 4 night Bahama break. Even after 4 times it’s still a > great experience. > Panic

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  > I was told in general Disney cruise is more expensive than Carnival > or RCI, is it true? Someone would give us the general ideas on the > average for 7 days how much Disney cruise cost?

  Go to www.allseasontravel.com and look at the prices,  then look at the prices for some of the others.  Yes,  I think it was a bit more expensive; but the rooms are on average 50% bigger than the competitor,  and the other cruises do not allow you to meet Mickey and Tigger.    Actually,  everything about Disney is 100% class all the way.

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  >Yes,  I think it was a bit more expensive; >but the rooms are on average 50% bigger than the competitor,

  Whoa – not sure who told you that, but it’s definitely not true.  I’ve cruised Disney and Holland America Line (HAL) for years – several cruises on each.  The cabins are almost identical in size – with HAL being slightly larger.  The verandahs on HAL are bigger than on DCL, too – deep enough that they put chaise lounge chairs out there.   Disney is more expensive generally.  If you need the extensive kids’ programs it’s probably worth it.  It’s a good cruise overall, but HAL is definitely more elegant (and preferred by my teen son also). Sue – DivaofDVC   aka WDW1972 DVC ‘97   OKW, Beach Club, Vero Beach, & Hilton Head

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  > I was told in general Disney cruise is more expensive than Carnival or RCI, > is it true? Someone would give us the general ideas on the average for 7 > days how much Disney cruise cost?

  A Disney cruise does tend to be more expensive then other cruise lines. When Kevin and I sailed, we were two adults alone, we also picked a week that was cheaper and the cruise was a few hundred more then other similar cruises we looked at. Your best bet to get an idea of price, is to take a look at travelocity.com and go thru the cabin selection process. Otherwise talk to your travel agent. sue

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  > It truly was a magical experience on the Disney Magic.  

  This I agree with! I don’t know that I > could ever sail on any other cruise line,  once spoiled like that.

  As much as I loved the Disney Magic, the itins are very limited. Also we like to try different cruise lines. I am sure you would have a very good time on other cruise lines also. sue

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  > Whoa – not sure who told you that, but it’s definitely not true.

  OK,  promise not to tease me about this,  but I read it in the Disney brochures and on the Disney website. > Disney is more expensive generally.  If you need the extensive kids’ > programs it’s probably worth it.  It’s a good cruise overall, but HAL > is definitely more elegant (and preferred by my teen son also).

  What did your kid prefer about HAL?    My kids were wild about The Stack. Which food did you prefer?   Disney has plays and movies –  what does HAL do during the days at sea?  If I do a non-Disney cruise,  which I am sure I will soon enough,  I think I want to try Radisson.

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  Did they teach you the newest dance – the Eisner quickstep? Mark

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Awesome!   No shortage of stuff to do,  lots of Disney events to experience > (movies, plays),  food was amazing (and lots of it),  ports of call were > wonderful,  rooms were comfy and big,  verandah easily sat my wife, kids, > and I,  and the ship was tip-top.   Only one beef – the air conditioning did > not keep the room as cool as I would have liked (room about 74,  would have > preferred 68).

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  >OK,  promise not to tease me about this,  but I read it in the Disney >brochures and on the Disney website.

  I’ve seen that, too – but they’re referring to the OLD industry standard. Although, someone recently cruised on RCCL’s new Mariner ship and his inside stateroom was a paltry 134 sq ft (or thereabouts).  I cruise HAL or DCL, and their inside staterooms are 184-197 or so….in that case the "ad" would be right, I guess >What did your kid prefer about HAL?    My kids were wild about The Stack. >Which food did you prefer?   Disney has plays and movies –  what does HAL do >during the days at sea?

  My son was 13 or 14 at the time (on DCL) and didn’t like that there were so many kids on board.  The Goofy pool was always packed, with younger (preteen) kids.  Dinners weren’t as nice, and of course the characters weren’t any big deal to him since he’d grown up going to wdw often. HAL actually has as many or more activities throughout the day & night.  They don’t have the adult-seminars Disney started on the sea days on the 7-day cruises, but they have just about everything else and more.  HAL has a very nice theater (more comfortable than the one on DCL) and they serve free hot buttered popcorn as you enter.  You can also pick up free cappuccino from the Java Cafe right outside the movie theater on most ships.  They tend to show 2 different movies per day, each 2 different times.  The movie shown at night is repeated during the afternoon the next day. > If I do a non-Disney cruise,  which I am sure I will soon enough,  I think >I want to try Radisson.

  You’ve got good taste!  Radisson is supposed to be top-notch!   Sue – DivaofDVC   aka WDW1972 DVC ‘97   OKW, Beach Club, Vero Beach, & Hilton Head

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  << My son was 13 or 14 at the time (on DCL) and didn’t like that there were so many kids on board.   >> Ahhh, a real RTC cruising curmudgeon-in-the-making.  LOL.  :-) Or…what is that saying…something like "I don’t want to be part of any group that’ll have me."

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  >> OK,  promise not to tease me about this,  but I read it in the Disney > brochures and on the Disney website. > I’ve seen that, too – but they’re referring to the OLD industry > standard. Although, someone recently cruised on RCCL’s new Mariner > ship and his inside stateroom was a paltry 134 sq ft (or > thereabouts).  I cruise HAL or DCL, and their inside staterooms are > 184-197 or so….in that case the "ad" would be right, I guess

  I think my room was 300 sq.ft.  and that seemed the perfect size.  Our older kids (3 of them) were in a separate room of the same size. > You’ve got good taste!  Radisson is supposed to be top-notch!

  That Raddisson Diamond dual hull just seems so, well,   *COOL*

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  >>What did your kid prefer about HAL?    My kids were wild about The Stack. >Which food did you prefer?   Disney has plays and movies –  what does HAL do >during the days at sea? >My son was 13 or 14 at the time (on DCL) and didn’t like that there were so >many kids on board.  The Goofy pool was always packed, with younger (preteen) >kids.  Dinners weren’t as nice, and of course the characters weren’t any big >deal to him since he’d grown up going to wdw often. >HAL actually has as many or more activities throughout the day & night.  

  Correct me if I’m wrong though. Disney is the only line that offers an all day program for children without meal breaks and runs til midnight. I also believe that there are no babysitting charges when in ports?? andrew Carnival Tropicale 1982 NCL Dawn 2004

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  I also believe that there are no babysitting charges when in > ports??

  Not true…at Castaway Cays we left our three year old with the babysitter service so my wife and I could go on a snorkeling excursion and had to pay for the service. Disney Wonder 1/04

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  > Correct me if I’m wrong though. Disney is the only line that offers an > all day program for children without meal breaks and runs til > midnight. I also believe that there are no babysitting charges when in > ports??

  They have a club called Oceaneers Lab.  It’s for kids ages 8 through about 14.    They do different things in 1 hour increments from about 7am until 1am.  Stuff like making Flubber,  or learning to draw animations.   They assign a counselor to your kid and it’s completely free.  They give you a pager so your kids can page you if they miss you and want you to come get them.   They will feed your kids as well,  by taking them to dinner for you. And it is completely free to use Oceaneers Lab as often as you want,  and free for The Stack for the older kids (teenagers). — Uno cervesa por favor.

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  Awesome!   No shortage of stuff to do,  lots of Disney events to experience (movies, plays),  food was amazing (and lots of it),  ports of call were wonderful,  rooms were comfy and big,  verandah easily sat my wife, kids, and I,  and the ship was tip-top.   Only one beef – the air conditioning did not keep the room as cool as I would have liked (room about 74,  would have preferred 68).

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  > Awesome!   No shortage of stuff to do,  lots of Disney events to experience > (movies, plays),  food was amazing (and lots of it),  ports of call were > wonderful,  rooms were comfy and big,  verandah easily sat my wife, kids, > and I,  and the ship was tip-top.   Only one beef – the air conditioning did > not keep the room as cool as I would have liked (room about 74,  would have > preferred 68).

  Glad to hear you have a great time!! We were on the Magic 1/03 and loved it. Are you going to write a review? sue

  Response:

  >> Awesome!   No shortage of stuff to do,  lots of Disney events to > experience (movies, plays),  food was amazing (and lots of it), > ports of call were wonderful,  rooms were comfy and big,  verandah > easily sat my wife, kids, and I,  and the ship was tip-top.   Only > one beef – the air conditioning did not keep the room as cool as I > would have liked (room about 74,  would have preferred 68). > Glad to hear you have a great time!! We were on the Magic 1/03 and > loved it. Are you going to write a review?

  I could.  Do you want me to?

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Awesome!   No shortage of stuff to do,  lots of Disney events to >>experience (movies, plays),  food was amazing (and lots of it), >>ports of call were wonderful,  rooms were comfy and big,  verandah >>easily sat my wife, kids, and I,  and the ship was tip-top.   Only >>one beef – the air conditioning did not keep the room as cool as I >>would have liked (room about 74,  would have preferred 68). >Glad to hear you have a great time!! We were on the Magic 1/03 and >loved it. Are you going to write a review? > I could.  Do you want me to?

  I wouldn’t of asked, if I weren’t interested!! sue

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  >> I could.  Do you want me to? > I wouldn’t of asked, if I weren’t interested!!

  OK,  but I am no Hemmingway. We decided on a cruise as the next logical Disney step after spending a week at Disney for Thanksgiving.  I poked around and found a highly rated travel agency with Internet rates (www.allseastravel.com).  They buy whole blocks of rooms and sell them at good prices.    At their recommendation,  we (myself, wife,  5 kids ages 10 – 15) drove to the port the night before. We stayed at a Radisson,  with 2 adjoining rooms.   Now with regard to the room:  With such a large crew,  I was thinking about the Roy Disney room; which can sleep 7.   The folks at All Season were kind enough to convince me that we would be better of with an outside room with verandah and an inside room across from that room.   Their advice saved us a bunch of money.  At any rate,  I diverge.   So,  like I was saying,  we got there the night before.  The room was great,  nicely done artistic pools with waterfalls, bridges, etc.   The next day we drove to the boat and parked about 50 feet from the boat entrance.  Perfect.   From there we had a Disney contractor take all of our luggage,  which was brought to our rooms and waiting for us. Before getting on,  a Disney person checked all of our passports, tickets, some forms for the Bahamas, etc.   Once on board,  we went to a really nice restaurant called Parrot Cay.   It was a buffet,  and the food was decent. Finally, after eating we were allowed into our rooms.  The rooms were the size of small hotel rooms,  with a king size bed and a livingroom area that slept 2 more.  We put the babies (10,11) in our room and the big kids (13, 14, 15)  in the room across.   On the day we took off,  there was supposed to be a rocket blast off from the NASA base.  I was in the bathroom when it launched,  but ran out to the verandah and we saw it shoot through the clouds and into space.  It was a Titan something or another.  Satellite launch.   We went to the top deck and walked all around.  We were blown away by the size of the boat.  We have a 35 foot cabin cruiser that sleeps 7, and this thing had emergency dinghies bigger than our boat!   When we were above deck,  we noticed that at the back of the boat there were small abovedeck patios for each deck.    And nobody was sitting at that small ones.  Everyone was on the big area up top.   We went back to the room and got ready for dinner.  Now,  there are three big dining rooms on the boat. Well, and a 4th that was formal tux dining for adults only.  We never went to that one.   We rotate through the three dining rooms with the same servers.    Our head server was  Roberto from Peru.  Our assistant was Edwin from St. Thomas.  We had a great dinner.   One thing I decided we would not be shy about.  Any time I saw more than one thing I liked on the menu,  I ordered it.  We all did.    The first nite the young kids hung out at a place just for little kids called the Oceaneers Lab.  The older one went to the Stack.  The smokestack on the boat is fake,  it is a multi-floor party place for teens.   My wife and I went to one of those little balconies at the back of the ship.  4th or 5th deck, IIRC.  Hard to find,  and it was just a little door with a sign that said "closed after 10 pm".   We sat there until 1 am just talking,  watching the lights of Florida,  and the continuous trail the twin props churned into the water.  We were right over them,  about 20 feet above sea level.  We were totally alone.  That became our secret hideaway,  and we used it at night a few times.  I think nobody else on the ship knew about it.     We finally collected all the kids and went to bed,  but not before trying room service.  The food was great. When we got up we had breakfast in our rooms and headed right out to Key West.  We walked all over,  and went into all the quaint stores.   Our kids got fake tattoos,  made out of some sort of plant.  Not aloe,  but something like that.  They lasted for two weeks.    We finally headed back to the boat,  and went to dinner as the second of three restaurants,  this one called Animators Palate.  Again – awesome food.  The next day was at sea, and we went to a few Disney plays and some Disney movies.   The plays were great,  and the movies were movies not yet released to the theatres.   We also stopped in the stores,  and bought a ton of collectible Disney pins and assorted clothing.   After our day at sea,  we arrived at Grand Cayman.   We spent the day snorkeling,  and we used a tip my mom gave us.  We each brought a fanny pack stuffed full of large milk bone dog biscuits.   As we snorkeled,  we fed the fish the milk bones by breaking them up with our hands once they got soggy.    We did this for hours and hours,  and saw many beautiful fish.  Colorful and friendly,  to say the least.  We didn’t do a shore excursion  - all we had to do is get off the ship and ask a taxi to take us to 7  mile beach.   We stayed at the beach that is owned by Marriott.   When we got back it was our turn to go to the most formal of the restaurants – Lumierres.  Amazing food.  5 star.   The next day,  we woke up in Cozumel.  By this time,  our teenagers made a ton of friends in The Stack,  and our babies decided they would rather hang with us and not go to Oceaneers Lab.   Cozumel was for shopping.  Shopping and haggling,  haggling and shopping.  We bought a ton of turquoise and silver,  yet again more t-shirts, skirts,  and huge sombreros;   and I treated myself to a new Rolex at a Disney recommended upscale jeweler.  What would have cost me $6,800 (GMT Master 2,  two tone) in USA,  cost me $5,200 in Cozumel.    Back on board for all of us,  but my 13 year old daughter and I went back into Mexico at sundown to do more shopping.   We barely made it back to late dinner (8:30 –  the other choice is 6:30 and you have to tell them before you start the cruise);  again at Parrot Cay.    For a second,  lets talk about this ship.  The ship is 1,000 feet long.  A quarter mile.  And a bit over 100 feet wide.  You just can’t imagine anything like it.   The movie theatres on board are each bigger than a movie theatre at a mall,  and there are 3 of them.  The biggest one where the plays happen must take up 4 or 5 decks of the ship in height;  and is as formal as Rockefeller Center; replete with balconies and chandelier’s.   The restaurants are bigger than any restaurant you have been to.   After Cozumel,  my wife and I took the kiddies to our secret hideaway and to some movies.   On our special balcony, we were able to watch Cuba all night.   Cuba is a few hundred miles long, and we followed the coast of Cuba about 8 miles out.  Very beautiful.   Yet again another day at sea,  with lots of movies and plays,  and the older ones lost for the day at The Stack as usual.   I tried my first Cuban cigar. Having never smoked,  I could not get it lit for more than a few seconds.  I can say I did it – but that’s about it.  It went back in the canister and into the garbage.    We got to Disney’s own island early,  and spent the day on it.  The beaches were filled with chairs,  and a huge BBQ lunch with everything you can imagine,  including exotic Caribbean fruits cut right at your table.   Again a ton of snorkeling,   and with that an interesting story.   I went out with my  13 year old daughter,  while the rest of the family went to spend more money on Disney stuff and enjoy Jimmy Buffett. We snorkeled for hours.  The prettiest white fish with yellow stripes that went from nose to tail came and visited me.  First 5,  then 10,  then 20, then 50.  And the more I fed them,  the more they wanted.  Eventually,  the water was boiling with these fish,  like Piranhas eating a cow.  We had to climb a lifeguard tower in the middle of the lagoon to get away from them. They were getting crazy,  and they even nipped us a few times.     Later on in our snorkel adventure we saw a barracuda and stingray,  something I hear is rather rare.    Back to the boat for yet another wonderful dinner,  and one final romantic evening on our secret deck.    The next morning we had a huge breakfast,  and said our goodbyes to our new friends,  Roberto, Edwin, and Jeffrey our stateroom butler.    Some nice touches –  Roberto and Edwin would make artistic animals our of our linen dinner napkins every night, and would play games with us (toothpick games) after dinner.  Roberto also did some magic.     Jeffrey would take an extra blanket out of the closet every night,  and make a beautiful animal out of it,  and would make a scene using the stuffed animals we bought (Nemo, Tigger,  Eeyore, and some others).   The animals he made out of the blanket reminded me of complex origami.    Just beautiful.     And the room was always sparkling,  no matter how messy the kids made it.  Jeffrey would clean our room 2x per day. Our trip is the most memorable one we have ever been on.   We were all sad to come home,  even though we have a wonderful life on shore.

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     Once on board,  we went to a really nice > restaurant called Parrot Cay.  

  Parrot Cay was my favorite dining room on the ship.    On the day we took off,  there was supposed > to be a rocket blast off from the NASA base.  I was in the bathroom when it > launched,  but ran out to the verandah and we saw it shoot through the > clouds and into space.  It was a Titan something or another.  Satellite > launch.  

  WOW, you were lucky to see this. We came back from our cruise on the day the shuttle was lost. We were hoping to catch a glimse of it on the way to the airport. Then we got the sad news.    Now,  there are three big dining rooms on the boat. > Well, and a 4th that was formal tux dining for adults only.  We never went > to that one.   We rotate through the three dining rooms with the same > servers.  

  I enjoyed roataing dining rooms. Sorry you didn’t go to Palo. The food and the service were excellant. You do need to dress up, but no tux required. If you sail with Disney again, be sure to go to Palo for dinner and for brunch. Thanks for a very good review, we don’t see many Disney reviews here. sue

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  WE LOVED THIS CRUISE ! 3 ADULT COUPLES WITH NO CHILDREN WITH US . ITS REALLY MAGIC

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  >    Once on board,  we went to a really nice > restaurant called Parrot Cay. > Parrot Cay was my favorite dining room on the ship.

  Animators was my favorite.  I loved when they would animate those pictures and play Disney clips from the 40’s (or whenever those black and whites were done). One thing I forgot to mention that was extremely exciting –  we would all sit on my balcony and look into the water –  now and then huge fish would come up the surface while we were cruising by at 20 knots.  I don’t know how big they were,  but I was on the 6th deck so they must have been pretty friggin huge!   We saw big orange fish,   and big gray fish.   Not often, but we did see them.  And the kids would all scream and point at them. It truly was a magical experience on the Disney Magic.   I don’t know that I could ever sail on any other cruise line,  once spoiled like that. — I am Saviour Bledsoe.  The Vanilla Vick. Pay me $20M and make me your statue.

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  Awesome!   No shortage of stuff to do,  lots of Disney events to experience (movies, plays),  food was amazing (and lots of it),  ports of call were wonderful,  rooms were comfy and big,  verandah easily sat my wife, kids, and I,  and the ship was tip-top.   Only one beef – the air conditioning did not keep the room as cool as I would have liked (room about 74,  would have preferred 68).

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  > Awesome!   No shortage of stuff to do,  lots of Disney events to experience > (movies, plays),  food was amazing (and lots of it),  ports of call were > wonderful,  rooms were comfy and big,  verandah easily sat my wife, kids, > and I,  and the ship was tip-top.   Only one beef – the air conditioning did > not keep the room as cool as I would have liked (room about 74,  would have > preferred 68).

  Glad to hear you have a great time!! We were on the Magic 1/03 and loved it. Are you going to write a review? sue

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  >> Awesome!   No shortage of stuff to do,  lots of Disney events to > experience (movies, plays),  food was amazing (and lots of it), > ports of call were wonderful,  rooms were comfy and big,  verandah > easily sat my wife, kids, and I,  and the ship was tip-top.   Only > one beef – the air conditioning did not keep the room as cool as I > would have liked (room about 74,  would have preferred 68). > Glad to hear you have a great time!! We were on the Magic 1/03 and > loved it. Are you going to write a review?

  I could.  Do you want me to?

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Awesome!   No shortage of stuff to do,  lots of Disney events to >>experience (movies, plays),  food was amazing (and lots of it), >>ports of call were wonderful,  rooms were comfy and big,  verandah >>easily sat my wife, kids, and I,  and the ship was tip-top.   Only >>one beef – the air conditioning did not keep the room as cool as I >>would have liked (room about 74,  would have preferred 68). >Glad to hear you have a great time!! We were on the Magic 1/03 and >loved it. Are you going to write a review? > I could.  Do you want me to?

  I wouldn’t of asked, if I weren’t interested!! sue

  Response:

  >> I could.  Do you want me to? > I wouldn’t of asked, if I weren’t interested!!

  OK,  but I am no Hemmingway. We decided on a cruise as the next logical Disney step after spending a week at Disney for Thanksgiving.  I poked around and found a highly rated travel agency with Internet rates (www.allseastravel.com).  They buy whole blocks of rooms and sell them at good prices.    At their recommendation,  we (myself, wife,  5 kids ages 10 – 15) drove to the port the night before. We stayed at a Radisson,  with 2 adjoining rooms.   Now with regard to the room:  With such a large crew,  I was thinking about the Roy Disney room; which can sleep 7.   The folks at All Season were kind enough to convince me that we would be better of with an outside room with verandah and an inside room across from that room.   Their advice saved us a bunch of money.  At any rate,  I diverge.   So,  like I was saying,  we got there the night before.  The room was great,  nicely done artistic pools with waterfalls, bridges, etc.   The next day we drove to the boat and parked about 50 feet from the boat entrance.  Perfect.   From there we had a Disney contractor take all of our luggage,  which was brought to our rooms and waiting for us. Before getting on,  a Disney person checked all of our passports, tickets, some forms for the Bahamas, etc.   Once on board,  we went to a really nice restaurant called Parrot Cay.   It was a buffet,  and the food was decent. Finally, after eating we were allowed into our rooms.  The rooms were the size of small hotel rooms,  with a king size bed and a livingroom area that slept 2 more.  We put the babies (10,11) in our room and the big kids (13, 14, 15)  in the room across.   On the day we took off,  there was supposed to be a rocket blast off from the NASA base.  I was in the bathroom when it launched,  but ran out to the verandah and we saw it shoot through the clouds and into space.  It was a Titan something or another.  Satellite launch.   We went to the top deck and walked all around.  We were blown away by the size of the boat.  We have a 35 foot cabin cruiser that sleeps 7, and this thing had emergency dinghies bigger than our boat!   When we were above deck,  we noticed that at the back of the boat there were small abovedeck patios for each deck.    And nobody was sitting at that small ones.  Everyone was on the big area up top.   We went back to the room and got ready for dinner.  Now,  there are three big dining rooms on the boat. Well, and a 4th that was formal tux dining for adults only.  We never went to that one.   We rotate through the three dining rooms with the same servers.    Our head server was  Roberto from Peru.  Our assistant was Edwin from St. Thomas.  We had a great dinner.   One thing I decided we would not be shy about.  Any time I saw more than one thing I liked on the menu,  I ordered it.  We all did.    The first nite the young kids hung out at a place just for little kids called the Oceaneers Lab.  The older one went to the Stack.  The smokestack on the boat is fake,  it is a multi-floor party place for teens.   My wife and I went to one of those little balconies at the back of the ship.  4th or 5th deck, IIRC.  Hard to find,  and it was just a little door with a sign that said "closed after 10 pm".   We sat there until 1 am just talking,  watching the lights of Florida,  and the continuous trail the twin props churned into the water.  We were right over them,  about 20 feet above sea level.  We were totally alone.  That became our secret hideaway,  and we used it at night a few times.  I think nobody else on the ship knew about it.     We finally collected all the kids and went to bed,  but not before trying room service.  The food was great. When we got up we had breakfast in our rooms and headed right out to Key West.  We walked all over,  and went into all the quaint stores.   Our kids got fake tattoos,  made out of some sort of plant.  Not aloe,  but something like that.  They lasted for two weeks.    We finally headed back to the boat,  and went to dinner as the second of three restaurants,  this one called Animators Palate.  Again – awesome food.  The next day was at sea, and we went to a few Disney plays and some Disney movies.   The plays were great,  and the movies were movies not yet released to the theatres.   We also stopped in the stores,  and bought a ton of collectible Disney pins and assorted clothing.   After our day at sea,  we arrived at Grand Cayman.   We spent the day snorkeling,  and we used a tip my mom gave us.  We each brought a fanny pack stuffed full of large milk bone dog biscuits.   As we snorkeled,  we fed the fish the milk bones by breaking them up with our hands once they got soggy.    We did this for hours and hours,  and saw many beautiful fish.  Colorful and friendly,  to say the least.  We didn’t do a shore excursion  - all we had to do is get off the ship and ask a taxi to take us to 7  mile beach.   We stayed at the beach that is owned by Marriott.   When we got back it was our turn to go to the most formal of the restaurants – Lumierres.  Amazing food.  5 star.   The next day,  we woke up in Cozumel.  By this time,  our teenagers made a ton of friends in The Stack,  and our babies decided they would rather hang with us and not go to Oceaneers Lab.   Cozumel was for shopping.  Shopping and haggling,  haggling and shopping.  We bought a ton of turquoise and silver,  yet again more t-shirts, skirts,  and huge sombreros;   and I treated myself to a new Rolex at a Disney recommended upscale jeweler.  What would have cost me $6,800 (GMT Master 2,  two tone) in USA,  cost me $5,200 in Cozumel.    Back on board for all of us,  but my 13 year old daughter and I went back into Mexico at sundown to do more shopping.   We barely made it back to late dinner (8:30 –  the other choice is 6:30 and you have to tell them before you start the cruise);  again at Parrot Cay.    For a second,  lets talk about this ship.  The ship is 1,000 feet long.  A quarter mile.  And a bit over 100 feet wide.  You just can’t imagine anything like it.   The movie theatres on board are each bigger than a movie theatre at a mall,  and there are 3 of them.  The biggest one where the plays happen must take up 4 or 5 decks of the ship in height;  and is as formal as Rockefeller Center; replete with balconies and chandelier’s.   The restaurants are bigger than any restaurant you have been to.   After Cozumel,  my wife and I took the kiddies to our secret hideaway and to some movies.   On our special balcony, we were able to watch Cuba all night.   Cuba is a few hundred miles long, and we followed the coast of Cuba about 8 miles out.  Very beautiful.   Yet again another day at sea,  with lots of movies and plays,  and the older ones lost for the day at The Stack as usual.   I tried my first Cuban cigar. Having never smoked,  I could not get it lit for more than a few seconds.  I can say I did it – but that’s about it.  It went back in the canister and into the garbage.    We got to Disney’s own island early,  and spent the day on it.  The beaches were filled with chairs,  and a huge BBQ lunch with everything you can imagine,  including exotic Caribbean fruits cut right at your table.   Again a ton of snorkeling,   and with that an interesting story.   I went out with my  13 year old daughter,  while the rest of the family went to spend more money on Disney stuff and enjoy Jimmy Buffett. We snorkeled for hours.  The prettiest white fish with yellow stripes that went from nose to tail came and visited me.  First 5,  then 10,  then 20, then 50.  And the more I fed them,  the more they wanted.  Eventually,  the water was boiling with these fish,  like Piranhas eating a cow.  We had to climb a lifeguard tower in the middle of the lagoon to get away from them. They were getting crazy,  and they even nipped us a few times.     Later on in our snorkel adventure we saw a barracuda and stingray,  something I hear is rather rare.    Back to the boat for yet another wonderful dinner,  and one final romantic evening on our secret deck.    The next morning we had a huge breakfast,  and said our goodbyes to our new friends,  Roberto, Edwin, and Jeffrey our stateroom butler.    Some nice touches –  Roberto and Edwin would make artistic animals our of our linen dinner napkins every night, and would play games with us (toothpick games) after dinner.  Roberto also did some magic.     Jeffrey would take an extra blanket out of the closet every night,  and make a beautiful animal out of it,  and would make a scene using the stuffed animals we bought (Nemo, Tigger,  Eeyore, and some others).   The animals he made out of the blanket reminded me of complex origami.    Just beautiful.     And the room was always sparkling,  no matter how messy the kids made it.  Jeffrey would clean our room 2x per day. Our trip is the most memorable one we have ever been on.   We were all sad to come home,  even though we have a wonderful life on shore.

  Response:

     Once on board,  we went to a really nice > restaurant called Parrot Cay.  

  Parrot Cay was my favorite dining room on the ship.    On the day we took off,  there was supposed > to be a rocket blast off from the NASA base.  I was in the bathroom when it > launched,  but ran out to the verandah and we saw it shoot through the > clouds and into space.  It was a Titan something or another.  Satellite > launch.  

  WOW, you were lucky to see this. We came back from our cruise on the day the shuttle was lost. We were hoping to catch a glimse of it on the way to the airport. Then we got the sad news.    Now,  there are three big dining rooms on the boat. > Well, and a 4th that was formal tux dining for adults only.  We never went > to that one.   We rotate through the three dining rooms with the same > servers.  

  I enjoyed roataing dining rooms. Sorry you didn’t go to Palo. The food and the service were excellant. You do need to dress up, but no tux required. If you sail with Disney again, be sure to go to Palo for dinner and for brunch. Thanks for a very good review, we don’t see many Disney reviews here. sue

  Response:

  WE LOVED THIS CRUISE ! 3 ADULT COUPLES WITH NO CHILDREN WITH US . ITS REALLY MAGIC

  Response:

  >    Once on board,  we went to a really nice > restaurant called Parrot Cay. > Parrot Cay was my favorite dining room on the ship.

  Animators was my favorite.  I loved when they would animate those pictures and play Disney clips from the 40’s (or whenever those black and whites were done). One thing I forgot to mention that was extremely exciting –  we would all sit on my balcony and look into the water –  now and then huge fish would come up the surface while we were cruising by at 20 knots.  I don’t know how big they were,  but I was on the 6th deck so they must have been pretty friggin huge!   We saw big orange fish,   and big gray fish.   Not often, but we did see them.  And the kids would all scream and point at them. It truly was a magical experience on the Disney Magic.   I don’t know that I could ever sail on any other cruise line,  once spoiled like that. — I am Saviour Bledsoe.  The Vanilla Vick. Pay me $20M and make me your statue.

  Response:

  Great review Vanilla. We’ve done the Disney cruise 4 times now but not the 7 night one yet just the 4 night Bahama break. Even after 4 times it’s still a great experience. Panic

  Response:

  I was told in general Disney cruise is more expensive than Carnival or RCI, is it true? Someone would give us the general ideas on the average for 7 days how much Disney cruise cost? Thanks Hai Pham

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Great review Vanilla. We’ve done the Disney cruise 4 times now but not the 7 > night one yet just the 4 night Bahama break. Even after 4 times it’s still a > great experience. > Panic

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  > I was told in general Disney cruise is more expensive than Carnival > or RCI, is it true? Someone would give us the general ideas on the > average for 7 days how much Disney cruise cost?

  Go to www.allseasontravel.com and look at the prices,  then look at the prices for some of the others.  Yes,  I think it was a bit more expensive; but the rooms are on average 50% bigger than the competitor,  and the other cruises do not allow you to meet Mickey and Tigger.    Actually,  everything about Disney is 100% class all the way.

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  >Yes,  I think it was a bit more expensive; >but the rooms are on average 50% bigger than the competitor,

  Whoa – not sure who told you that, but it’s definitely not true.  I’ve cruised Disney and Holland America Line (HAL) for years – several cruises on each.  The cabins are almost identical in size – with HAL being slightly larger.  The verandahs on HAL are bigger than on DCL, too – deep enough that they put chaise lounge chairs out there.   Disney is more expensive generally.  If you need the extensive kids’ programs it’s probably worth it.  It’s a good cruise overall, but HAL is definitely more elegant (and preferred by my teen son also). Sue – DivaofDVC   aka WDW1972 DVC ‘97   OKW, Beach Club, Vero Beach, & Hilton Head

  Response:

  > I was told in general Disney cruise is more expensive than Carnival or RCI, > is it true? Someone would give us the general ideas on the average for 7 > days how much Disney cruise cost?

  A Disney cruise does tend to be more expensive then other cruise lines. When Kevin and I sailed, we were two adults alone, we also picked a week that was cheaper and the cruise was a few hundred more then other similar cruises we looked at. Your best bet to get an idea of price, is to take a look at travelocity.com and go thru the cabin selection process. Otherwise talk to your travel agent. sue

  Response:

  > It truly was a magical experience on the Disney Magic.  

  This I agree with! I don’t know that I > could ever sail on any other cruise line,  once spoiled like that.

  As much as I loved the Disney Magic, the itins are very limited. Also we like to try different cruise lines. I am sure you would have a very good time on other cruise lines also. sue

  Response:

  > Whoa – not sure who told you that, but it’s definitely not true.

  OK,  promise not to tease me about this,  but I read it in the Disney brochures and on the Disney website. > Disney is more expensive generally.  If you need the extensive kids’ > programs it’s probably worth it.  It’s a good cruise overall, but HAL > is definitely more elegant (and preferred by my teen son also).

  What did your kid prefer about HAL?    My kids were wild about The Stack. Which food did you prefer?   Disney has plays and movies –  what does HAL do during the days at sea?  If I do a non-Disney cruise,  which I am sure I will soon enough,  I think I want to try Radisson.

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  Did they teach you the newest dance – the Eisner quickstep? Mark

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Awesome!   No shortage of stuff to do,  lots of Disney events to experience > (movies, plays),  food was amazing (and lots of it),  ports of call were > wonderful,  rooms were comfy and big,  verandah easily sat my wife, kids, > and I,  and the ship was tip-top.   Only one beef – the air conditioning did > not keep the room as cool as I would have liked (room about 74,  would have > preferred 68).

  Response:

  >OK,  promise not to tease me about this,  but I read it in the Disney >brochures and on the Disney website.

  I’ve seen that, too – but they’re referring to the OLD industry standard. Although, someone recently cruised on RCCL’s new Mariner ship and his inside stateroom was a paltry 134 sq ft (or thereabouts).  I cruise HAL or DCL, and their inside staterooms are 184-197 or so….in that case the "ad" would be right, I guess >What did your kid prefer about HAL?    My kids were wild about The Stack. >Which food did you prefer?   Disney has plays and movies –  what does HAL do >during the days at sea?

  My son was 13 or 14 at the time (on DCL) and didn’t like that there were so many kids on board.  The Goofy pool was always packed, with younger (preteen) kids.  Dinners weren’t as nice, and of course the characters weren’t any big deal to him since he’d grown up going to wdw often. HAL actually has as many or more activities throughout the day & night.  They don’t have the adult-seminars Disney started on the sea days on the 7-day cruises, but they have just about everything else and more.  HAL has a very nice theater (more comfortable than the one on DCL) and they serve free hot buttered popcorn as you enter.  You can also pick up free cappuccino from the Java Cafe right outside the movie theater on most ships.  They tend to show 2 different movies per day, each 2 different times.  The movie shown at night is repeated during the afternoon the next day. > If I do a non-Disney cruise,  which I am sure I will soon enough,  I think >I want to try Radisson.

  You’ve got good taste!  Radisson is supposed to be top-notch!   Sue – DivaofDVC   aka WDW1972 DVC ‘97   OKW, Beach Club, Vero Beach, & Hilton Head

  Response:

  << My son was 13 or 14 at the time (on DCL) and didn’t like that there were so many kids on board.   >> Ahhh, a real RTC cruising curmudgeon-in-the-making.  LOL.  :-) Or…what is that saying…something like "I don’t want to be part of any group that’ll have me."

  Response:

  >> OK,  promise not to tease me about this,  but I read it in the Disney > brochures and on the Disney website. > I’ve seen that, too – but they’re referring to the OLD industry > standard. Although, someone recently cruised on RCCL’s new Mariner > ship and his inside stateroom was a paltry 134 sq ft (or > thereabouts).  I cruise HAL or DCL, and their inside staterooms are > 184-197 or so….in that case the "ad" would be right, I guess

  I think my room was 300 sq.ft.  and that seemed the perfect size.  Our older kids (3 of them) were in a separate room of the same size. > You’ve got good taste!  Radisson is supposed to be top-notch!

  That Raddisson Diamond dual hull just seems so, well,   *COOL*

  Response:

  >>What did your kid prefer about HAL?    My kids were wild about The Stack. >Which food did you prefer?   Disney has plays and movies –  what does HAL do >during the days at sea? >My son was 13 or 14 at the time (on DCL) and didn’t like that there were so >many kids on board.  The Goofy pool was always packed, with younger (preteen) >kids.  Dinners weren’t as nice, and of course the characters weren’t any big >deal to him since he’d grown up going to wdw often. >HAL actually has as many or more activities throughout the day & night.  

  Correct me if I’m wrong though. Disney is the only line that offers an all day program for children without meal breaks and runs til midnight. I also believe that there are no babysitting charges when in ports?? andrew Carnival Tropicale 1982 NCL Dawn 2004

  Response:

  I also believe that there are no babysitting charges when in > ports??

  Not true…at Castaway Cays we left our three year old with the babysitter service so my wife and I could go on a snorkeling excursion and had to pay for the service. Disney Wonder 1/04

  Response:

  > Correct me if I’m wrong though. Disney is the only line that offers an > all day program for children without meal breaks and runs til > midnight. I also believe that there are no babysitting charges when in > ports??

  They have a club called Oceaneers Lab.  It’s for kids ages 8 through about 14.    They do different things in 1 hour increments from about 7am until 1am.  Stuff like making Flubber,  or learning to draw animations.   They assign a counselor to your kid and it’s completely free.  They give you a pager so your kids can page you if they miss you and want you to come get them.   They will feed your kids as well,  by taking them to dinner for you. And it is completely free to use Oceaneers Lab as often as you want,  and free for The Stack for the older kids (teenagers). — Uno cervesa por favor.

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• San Antonio anyone?

  Question:

  Any bassists around there? I’ll be there for a conference in November. —   O> /()   ^^

  Response:

  >Any bassists around there? >I’ll be there for a conference in November.

  Got some kooky fuggers on The Pit in SA Rob…Rockin’ Ray Duke, Chuck Moses, Jon Packard and Jack "Bovinehost" Williams…post this on the Pit…tell em I sent ya and they’ll get ya screwed, blued and tattooed bro! Steve "Dude" Barr http://www.TheDudePit.com

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  Yeah… like Ray, Chuck, and Jack need to meet with a SAILOR for goodness sakes…..  _ ‘ ):    Ted Partin  /     http://members.aol.com/dblbassted

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  > Any bassists around there? > I’ll be there for a conference in November.

  Beautiful place… see the Riverwalk and the Alamo.   —   /"  ASCII Ribbon Campaign                | Todd H   /                                       | http://www.toddh.net/    X   Promoting good netiquette            | http://triplethreatband.com/   /  http://www.toddh.net/netiquette/     | "4 lines suffice."

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  >Yeah… like Ray, Chuck, and Jack need to meet with a SAILOR for goodness >sakes…..

  Ummm did you know that Jack is a Naval Officer??

  Response:

  > > Any bassists around there? > I’ll be there for a conference in November.

  Hi Rob, I’m down on Corpus but make it to S.A. once or twice a month. Maybe we can hook up for lunch. Let me know your dates. thanks! Cc

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  Me, too, Rob.  S.A.’s an easy drive from here.  My hometown butI don’t get -Rankin

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  Response:

  >Any bassists around there? >I’ll be there for a conference in November.

  Let me know when; sounds like fun.  later, ron

  Response:

  > > > Any bassists around there? > > I’ll be there for a conference in November. > Hi Rob, > I’m down on Corpus but make it to S.A. once or twice a month. Maybe we > can hook up for lunch. > Let me know your dates. > thanks! > Cc

  Lunch… now that I can do. Nov. 14, 15, 16th time frame.  Might be more, might be less.  Still early in the game.  The place I work for changes travel plans more than I change underwear.  Sometimes on the fly.  I’ll keep ya’ in mind!   —   O> /()   ^^

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  > Me, too, Rob.  S.A.’s an easy drive from here.  My hometown butI don’t get

  Cool! —   O> /()   ^^

  Response:

  > >Any bassists around there? >I’ll be there for a conference in November. > Let me know when; sounds like fun.  later, ron

  See above reply —   O> /()   ^^

  Response:

  > >Yeah… like Ray, Chuck, and Jack need to meet with a SAILOR for goodness >sakes….. > Ummm did you know that Jack is a Naval Officer??

  You spelt "Navel" wrong.  :-) —   O> /()   ^^

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  > post this on the Pit…tell em I > sent ya and they’ll get ya screwed, blued and tattooed bro!

  Did you know, it’s now illegal for us sailors to get a tattoo that would be visible in uniform?  WE INVENTED THE SHIT!!!  (not really, but you get the idea)  I need a different job. I’m not much of a party guy, so I’d better pass.  Thanks though Looking for people I already know really, though I do feel like I know a few Pitters.  I lurk a bit. —   O> /()   ^^

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  >I do feel like I know a >few Pitters.  I lurk a bit.

  LOL…Of course you do. Steve "Dude" Barr http://www.TheDudePit.com

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  I’m not much of a party guy, so I’d better pass.  Thanks though Looking for people I already know really, though I do feel like I know a few Pitters.  I lurk a bit. Eh, go ahead and meet up with them, you don’t HAVE to party and they know that too. swell fellows. Tim

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > Any bassists around there? > > > I’ll be there for a conference in November. > Hi Rob, > I’m down on Corpus but make it to S.A. once or twice a month. Maybe we > can hook up for lunch. > Let me know your dates. > thanks! > Cc

  How’s about Casey’s?  later, ron

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  Are you driving to S.A.?  Stop in Houston if you need a free meal or a place to crash. Bud

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Any bassists around there? > I’ll be there for a conference in November. > — >   O> > /() >   ^^

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  >Are you driving to S.A.?  Stop in Houston if you need a free meal or a place >to crash.

  Ughh…do ya’ live on a cul-de-sac?….The Winobagy ain’t got no reverse. Hawk

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  >Are you driving to S.A.?  Stop in Houston if you need a free meal or a place >to crash. > Ughh…do ya’ live on a cul-de-sac?….The Winobagy ain’t got no reverse. > Hawk

  The apartment complex is one giant loop. Bud "Billy Bob" LeCompte

  Response:

  > Are you driving to S.A.?  Stop in Houston if you need a free meal or a place > to crash.

  Thanks Bud. If I had my choice, I’d rollerblade there, however, I’ll be flying commercial air. —   O> /()   ^^

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• Iron Maiden concert

  Question:

  Hi, Was anyone there? My kid just came home. Drove down there and came via coastal highway. Wife is relieved he’s back safe. Back to school on Monday. Tony

  Response:

  >Hi, >Was anyone there? My kid just came home. Drove down there and came via >coastal highway. Wife is relieved he’s back safe. Back to school on Monday.

  Hey, if the kid’s gonna listen to metal (and kids are gonna listen to metal) he’s liking some of the best ever. Great stuff – makes the hair on my arms stand up. Ron

  Response:

  >Hi, >Was anyone there? My kid just came home. Drove down there and came via >coastal highway. Wife is relieved he’s back safe. Back to school on Monday. > Hey, if the kid’s gonna listen to metal (and kids are gonna listen to metal) > he’s liking some of the best ever. > Great stuff – makes the hair on my arms stand up. > Ron

  Ron, If you had to pick one or two favorite Iron Maiden tunes what would they be? The reason I ask is our band needs a few more metal-ish tunes and maybe this would fit the bill. I have never really listened to metal (since Blck Sabath Paranoid anyway) even though I have played metal chords and progressions since the seventies. People ask if I play any Metelica, or Maiden, etc. and I have to say nope. I think the only tune we do now that is even close to metal is "Livin After Midnight" by Judas Priest. Thanks much…have a great week! ERic

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Ron, >If you had to pick one or two favorite Iron Maiden tunes what would they be? >The reason I ask is our band needs a few more metal-ish tunes and maybe this >would fit the bill. >I have never really listened to metal (since Blck Sabath Paranoid anyway) >even though I have played metal chords and progressions since the seventies. >People ask if I play any Metelica, or Maiden, etc. and I have to say nope. >I think the only tune we do now that is even close to metal is "Livin After >Midnight" by Judas Priest. >Thanks much…have a great week! >ERic

  I’m not Ron, but we used to do quite a few Maiden tunes "back in the day".  But only 2?     "Wrathchild" is a fun one to play, because the singer can interact with the audience a little because of its one on one perspective.  "Trooper" is a popular one, albeit a little quick.  "Still Life" can be good to slow it down for a minute or two.  My absolute favorite to do is "Wasted Years".  I always loved playing the intro and solo to that one … it just has a good groove and feel to it.  "Sunlight and Steel" can be a good one, depending on the audience you cater to.  Same with "The Evil That Men Do" and "Two Minutes to Midnight".    If only two, I’d have to say Wasted Years would definitely have to be one.   –Tony Lostpup198 ‘97 FXSTSB (…and then some!) JAMFHDO #1 http://members.aol.com/Lostpup198/

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  >If you had to pick one or two favorite Iron > Maiden tunes what would they be? The > reason I ask is our band needs a few > more metal-ish tunes and maybe this > would fit the bill. >I have never really listened to metal > (since Blck Sabath Paranoid anyway) > even though I have played metal chords > and progressions since the seventies. > People ask if I play any Metelica, or > Maiden, etc. and I have to say nope. I > think the only tune we do now that is > even close to metal is "Livin After > Midnight" by Judas Priest.

  Well, if you’ve got a singer with a bit of range, you can do some Bruce-era stuff that’s fairly simple but would probably go over with non-Maiden fans too…Flight of Icarus, Run to the Hills, and The Trooper to name a few. Running Free and Sanctuary are also good, and don’t require quite the vocal ability that the Bruce-era stuff does. Running Free in particular is good for the audience to sing along with, and you can stretch it for time when you’re nearing a break. ~Rich See my gear at the link! http://community.webtv.net/one4rich/RichsGuitarPage

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  Hope you don’t mind if I piggy back a bit….. >Ron, >If you had to pick one or two favorite Iron Maiden tunes what would they be? >The reason I ask is our band needs a few more metal-ish tunes and maybe this >would fit the bill. >I have never really listened to metal (since Blck Sabath Paranoid anyway) >even though I have played metal chords and progressions since the seventies. >People ask if I play any Metelica, or Maiden, etc. and I have to say nope. >I think the only tune we do now that is even close to metal is "Livin After >Midnight" by Judas Priest.

  For Priest, add "Breaking the Law" you’ll have figured out the guitar parts by the time you’ve noted down the arrangement and copied the lyrics. It do rock. >I’m not Ron, but we used to do quite a few Maiden tunes "back in the day".  But >only 2? >    "Wrathchild" is a fun one to play, because the singer can interact with the >audience a little because of its one on one perspective.  "Trooper" is a >popular one, albeit a little quick.  "Still Life" can be good to slow it down >for a minute or two.  My absolute favorite to do is "Wasted Years".  I always >loved playing the intro and solo to that one … it just has a good groove and >feel to it.  "Sunlight and Steel" can be a good one, depending on the audience >you cater to.  Same with "The Evil That Men Do" and "Two Minutes to Midnight". >   If only two, I’d have to say Wasted Years would definitely have to be one.  

  I can’t add to this, maybe Wicker Man. Otherwise this’d be the better known / popular choices. Ron

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  How bout "Killers", "Murders in the Rue Morgue", "Flash of the Blade", and of course "Run to the Hills" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->     "Wrathchild" is a fun one to play, because the singer can interact with the > audience a little because of its one on one perspective.  "Trooper" is a > popular one, albeit a little quick.  "Still Life" can be good to slow it down > for a minute or two.  My absolute favorite to do is "Wasted Years".  I always > loved playing the intro and solo to that one … it just has a good groove and > feel to it.  "Sunlight and Steel" can be a good one, depending on the audience > you cater to.  Same with "The Evil That Men Do" and "Two Minutes to Midnight". >    If only two, I’d have to say Wasted Years would definitely have to be one.   > –Tony > Lostpup198 > ‘97 FXSTSB (…and then some!) > JAMFHDO #1 > http://members.aol.com/Lostpup198/

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  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hope you don’t mind if I piggy back a bit….. >>Ron, >>If you had to pick one or two favorite Iron Maiden tunes what would they be? >>The reason I ask is our band needs a few more metal-ish tunes and maybe this >>would fit the bill. >>I have never really listened to metal (since Blck Sabath Paranoid anyway) >>even though I have played metal chords and progressions since the seventies. >>People ask if I play any Metelica, or Maiden, etc. and I have to say nope. >>I think the only tune we do now that is even close to metal is "Livin After >>Midnight" by Judas Priest. > For Priest, add "Breaking the Law" you’ll have figured out the guitar parts by > the time you’ve noted down the arrangement and copied the lyrics. It do rock. snip> > Ron

  Excellent!  For a mini-theme three-fer  "I Fought The Law" ala Social Distortion then "Jailbreak" by Thin Lizzy (which I already do) and then whip them into a frenzy with "Breakin The Law".  Then we can take a break and talk to the over-sexed housewife who forgot to wear any undergarments ya…aammmm…ahhh, never mind. Thanks for the song idea….I’m sure the other members will go for it. ERic "the outlaw" Nels

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  I can’t believe that no-one mentioned "Prowler" or "Sanctuary" or "Phantom of the Opera". Not to forget "The number of the Beast" oh and " run to the hills". Just my tuppence worth. P

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• OT: Republicans Reject Bid to Boost Homeland Security Funding

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  Senate Rejects Bid to Boost Homeland Security Funding By Helen Dewar (Washington Post) Senate Republicans yesterday turned back the first of several Democratic attempts to add to proposed spending for homeland security next year. A proposal by Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) to add $1.75 billion to the $29.3 billion appropriations bill for the new Department of Homeland Security was defeated on a largely party-line vote of 50 to 43. Byrd’s proposal sought to add $602 million for transit security; $729.5 million for police, firefighters and "first responders"; $238.5 million for border protections; $100 million to safeguard air cargo; and $80 million to protect chemical facilities.

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  He proposed because it was only for his own home state.

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Senate Rejects Bid to Boost Homeland Security Funding > By Helen Dewar > (Washington Post) > Senate Republicans yesterday turned back the first of several Democratic > attempts to add to proposed spending for homeland security next year. > A proposal by Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) to add $1.75 billion to the $29.3 > billion appropriations bill for the new Department of Homeland Security was > defeated on a largely party-line vote of 50 to 43. > Byrd’s proposal sought to add $602 million for transit security; $729.5 million > for police, firefighters and "first responders"; $238.5 million for border > protections; $100 million to safeguard air cargo; and $80 million to protect > chemical facilities.

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  >He proposed because it was only for his own home state.

  That’s bullshit. But now I suppose we can mark you down as being against the full funding of the Homeland Security department.

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  > >He proposed because it was only for his own home state. > That’s bullshit. But now I suppose we can mark you down as being against the > full funding of the Homeland Security department.

  Only the pork that the Democrat party added in typical opportunistic fashion. Civilly yours, Mike F.

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  >Only the pork that the Democrat party added in typical opportunistic >fashion.

  Pork? Nope. Just full funding for Homeland Security. You want that, don’t you? Or do you go along with the Bush Administration’s underfunding of FEMA too?

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  > >Only the pork that the Democrat party added in typical opportunistic >fashion. > Pork? Nope. Just full funding for Homeland Security. You want that, don’t you? > Or do you go along with the Bush Administration’s underfunding of FEMA too?

  Hey, did we forget the sniper who had he’s way for how many What would have Homeland Security have done to have and effect on that situation!!!!!!! When the armed citizen is made part of the Homeland Security, then We <thinking> <thinking> There is no security for Joe and Jane Doe, having the present concept of so-called Homeland Security. <thinking> The SITTING DUCK *Citizen* Concept, Has Got To Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  What good is a carry permit when our legal system won’t let you shoot anyone???? Think you can shoot someone in your own home??? Better not shoot ‘em in the back…! Even if you avoid the Felony charge and don’t get ass-fucked in jail, the victim’s family, friends, banker, landlord, and even the humane society that adopts his dog will ass-fuck you in the wallet in civil court(unless of course you’re a celebrity). This is another simplistic ‘30 second sound bite’ solution. Besides what the mayors(both parties) are talking about is protecting against and responding to threats that effect large numbers of people. Things like water supplies…. says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Only the pork that the Democrat party added in typical opportunistic > >fashion. > Pork? Nope. Just full funding for Homeland Security. You want that, don’t you? > Or do you go along with the Bush Administration’s underfunding of FEMA too? > Hey, did we forget the sniper who had he’s way for how many > What would have Homeland Security have done to have and effect on that > situation!!!!!!! > When the armed citizen is made part of the Homeland Security, then We > <thinking> > <thinking> > There is no security for Joe and Jane Doe, having the present concept of > so-called Homeland Security. > <thinking> > The SITTING DUCK *Citizen* Concept, Has Got To > Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Time Electronics. > http://www.timeelect.com > Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, >        Music & Studio Production, > Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  >Bid

  But that would mean you believe your hero Dubya is a liar.

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  > >Bid > But that would mean you believe your hero Dubya is a liar.

  Don’t make Bush the issue, when all along it was you Liberal Lefty’s, who created and hatched, the Un-armed, "Defenseless", Sitting Duck Hey, the Liberal Lefty that got shot in the town hall in NYC a few days ago, was packin.  But the other cat, got the drop, on him in the shoot out.  And he, was another Liberal Lefty too!!!!!! If I can’t have a carry permit here in New Jersey, I want a ban on ALL Carry Permits for the Garden State.  Why should only the PRIVILEGED with *political connection* have them. I’m not one of those Sitting Duck Citizens who feels secure being ARMED with only a 911 system that sends Duddly-Doo-Right to my rescue.  That Duddy-Doo-Right’s performance record of ALWAYS arriving in the nick of time to save the day, is a Hollywood Fairy Tail, the Liberal Left paints as today’s reality. New York City’s mayor after the shooting is yelling, GUNS BAD, Too Many GUNS, PEOPLE HAVE TOO MANY GUNS, etc…   He’s turned it into a gun ISSUE, not the CRIME issue, it really is. Like I said, it’s the Liberal Lefty’s that has made SITTING DUCKS out of ALL of us. http://timeelect.com/wtc/bl14.jpg http://timeelect.com/wtc/bl14.jpg But, the years of the Liberal Left thinking made this a Hollywood Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  > >Bid > But that would mean you believe your hero Dubya is a liar.

  Tink, I just found this in my inbox, and thought I’d share it with ya.   Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back:  (for those of you that don’t know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator) I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires.   I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.   Guns do not make you a killer.  I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.   I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed.  Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?     I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.   I don’t think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America.  Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens.  Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.   I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.   When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is notracial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.   I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it.  If I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it wouldn’t be a private matter or my personal business.  I would be "FIRED" immediately!   I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English!  As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!   My father and grandfather didn’t die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.  I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry self if you threaten them after they tell you to stop.  If you can’t understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines.   I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation recount votes when needed. I know what the definition of lying is.   I don’t think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.   We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.   I don’t hate the rich.  I don’t pity the poor. I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television.  That doesn’t stop you from watching them.   I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell’s Angel with an attitude.   I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more.  If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that’s better, and put your name on the building.  Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.   It doesn’t take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say "NO!"   "I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don’t pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals.  I don’t want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me french fries!   I am sick of "Political Correctness." I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be "African-Americans"?  Besides, Africa is a continent. I don’t go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe.  I am proud to be from America and nowhere else. Don’t hold back anything. Feel free to speak your mind. Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Reject > >Bid > But that would mean you believe your hero Dubya is a liar. > Tink, I just found this in my inbox, and thought I’d share it with ya. >   Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back:  (for those of you > that don’t know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator)

  Andy Rooney didn’t really say that… I’ve also seen it attributed to George Carlin, who also didn’t write it…

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Reject > > >Bid > > But that would mean you believe your hero Dubya is a liar. > Tink, I just found this in my inbox, and thought I’d share it with ya. >   Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back:  (for those of you > that don’t know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator) > Andy Rooney didn’t really say that… > I’ve also seen it attributed to George Carlin, who also didn’t write it…

  Well, who ever put it ink, sure had a handle on proper logical thinking. Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  >Reject >Don’t make Bush the issue

  He is the issue. >Hey, the Liberal Lefty that got shot in the town hall in NYC a few days >ago, was packin.

  That  "liberal lefty" was anything but. He was a decorated and distinguished ex-cop. Does it make you feel good to be dissing cops now?

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  >Left >  I am sick of "Political Correctness."

  No surprise that you and that idiot Rooney don’t like the concept of "political correctness" which, before the right-wing rebranding, was referred to as "being polite."

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  Go get em Jim! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Left >  I am sick of "Political Correctness." > No surprise that you and that idiot Rooney don’t like the concept of "political > correctness" which, before the right-wing rebranding, was referred to as "being > polite."

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Reject >Don’t make Bush the issue > He is the issue. >Hey, the Liberal Lefty that got shot in the town hall in NYC a few days >ago, was packin. > That  "liberal lefty" was anything but. He was a decorated and distinguished > ex-cop. Does it make you feel good to be dissing cops now?

  I have a flower pot over here, that is decorated and distinguished <thinking>   BOTH, a decorated and distinguished cop, and a decorated and distinguished hamburger flipper have an equal right to carry a hand gun for self protection. <thinking> BTW, that decorated and distinguished cop, became a Liberal Lefty politician, and continued to carry only through his POLITICAL So the Elite Liberal Lefty Politician is not an equal to John & Jane Doe, when it comes to EQUAL rights to self-protection under the <thinking> So Tink, there you have it!!!!! The Liberal Lefty Politicians pack heat, for all other’s, *they* can call 911 for Duddly Doo Right, <thinking> Hello, this is Duddly Doo Right. All lines are busy right now. Your call is important to us, so please stay on the line, and one of my representatives will be with you as soon as possible. <music background> If this is a REAL emergency, you can press #1 at anytime, and record your message for Duddy Doo Right. <music background> If this is a non emergency, Duddly Doo Right’s web site is located at http://Duddy-Doo-Right.gov You can check the latest violent crime areas, and reports of citizen service outages. There are also interesting articles on how more gun control laws will make our streets safer, for you and your family. There is our new "What’s New" section you can click on, and download sound clips of the latest anti-crime and anti-gun violence speeches by local and federal officials. <music background> Hello, this is Duddly Doo Right. All lines are busy right now. Your call is important to us, so please stay on the line, and one of my representatives will be with you as soon as possible. <music background> If this is a REAL emergency, you can press #1 at anytime, and record your message for Duddy Doo Right. <music background> If this is a non emergency, Duddly Doo Right’s web site is located at http://Duddy-Doo-Right.gov You can check the latest violent crime areas, and reports of citizen service outages. There are also interesting articles on how more gun control laws will make our streets safer, for you and your family. There is our new "What’s New" section you can click on, and download sound clips of the latest anti-crime and anti-gun violence speeches by local and federal officials. <thinking> There is no more World Trade Center, in the New York Skyline. <thinking> Here’s another reality across this land!!!!! Because of the Liberal Lefty’s in New York City and other cities across the USA,…. there are more DECORATED and DISTINGUISHED *CRIMINALS*, carrying on the streets, than there are Law Abiding Citizens with a carry permit. <thinking> Ya know, it really seems the Liberal Lefty really doesn’t want crime, like cancer, to disappear. Look at all the doctors, Duddly Doo Rights, and Lefty Liberals that Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  Rich, Can I buy stock in your exclamation point key ?  

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Republicans > >Reject > >Don’t make Bush the issue > He is the issue. > >Hey, the Liberal Lefty that got shot in the town hall in NYC a few days > >ago, was packin. > That  "liberal lefty" was anything but. He was a decorated and distinguished > ex-cop. Does it make you feel good to be dissing cops now? > I have a flower pot over here, that is decorated and distinguished > <thinking> > BOTH, a decorated and distinguished cop, and a decorated and > distinguished hamburger flipper have an equal right to carry a hand gun > for self protection. > <thinking> > BTW, that decorated and distinguished cop, became a Liberal Lefty > politician, and continued to carry only through his POLITICAL > So the Elite Liberal Lefty Politician is not an equal to John & Jane > Doe, when it comes to EQUAL rights to self-protection under the > <thinking> > So Tink, there you have it!!!!! > The Liberal Lefty Politicians pack heat, for all other’s, > *they* can call 911 for Duddly Doo Right, > <thinking> > Hello, this is Duddly Doo Right. > All lines are busy right now. > Your call is important to us, > so please stay on the line, > and one of my representatives > will be with you as soon as possible. > <music background> > If this is a REAL emergency, > you can press #1 at anytime, > and record your message for Duddy Doo Right. > <music background> > If this is a non emergency, > Duddly Doo Right’s web site is > located at http://Duddy-Doo-Right.gov > You can check the latest violent crime areas, > and reports of citizen service outages. > There are also interesting articles on how more > gun control laws will make our streets safer, > for you and your family. > There is our new "What’s New" section you can click on, > and download sound clips of the latest anti-crime and > anti-gun violence speeches by local and federal officials. > <music background> > Hello, this is Duddly Doo Right. > All lines are busy right now. > Your call is important to us, > so please stay on the line, > and one of my representatives > will be with you as soon as possible. > <music background> > If this is a REAL emergency, > you can press #1 at anytime, > and record your message for Duddy Doo Right. > <music background> > If this is a non emergency, > Duddly Doo Right’s web site is > located at http://Duddy-Doo-Right.gov > You can check the latest violent crime areas, > and reports of citizen service outages. > There are also interesting articles on how more > gun control laws will make our streets safer, > for you and your family. > There is our new "What’s New" section you can click on, > and download sound clips of the latest anti-crime and > anti-gun violence speeches by local and federal officials. > <thinking> > There is no more World Trade Center, in the New York Skyline. > <thinking> > Here’s another reality across this land!!!!! > Because of the Liberal Lefty’s in New York City and other cities across > the USA,…. > there are more DECORATED and DISTINGUISHED *CRIMINALS*, carrying on the > streets, than there are Law Abiding Citizens with a carry permit. > <thinking> > Ya know, it really seems the Liberal Lefty really doesn’t want crime, > like cancer, to disappear. > Look at all the doctors, Duddly Doo Rights, and Lefty Liberals that > Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Time Electronics. > http://www.timeelect.com > Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, >        Music & Studio Production, > Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  Those are true words of wisdom in a crazy age ! That’s be a big-ass signature, but it might be worth it …. hmm….

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Republicans > Reject > > > >Bid > > > But that would mean you believe your hero Dubya is a liar. > > Tink, I just found this in my inbox, and thought I’d share it with ya. > >   Andy Rooney said on 60 minutes a few weeks back:  (for those of you > > that don’t know Andy Rooney, he is a 82 year old US TV commentator) > Andy Rooney didn’t really say that… > I’ve also seen it attributed to George Carlin, who also didn’t write it… > Well, who ever put it ink, sure had a handle on proper logical thinking. > Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Time Electronics. > http://www.timeelect.com > Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, >        Music & Studio Production, > Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  Great Rant Rich! Those folks are busy trying to make us feel sorry for the poor disadvantaged thugs while at the same time making criminals out of regular citizens trying to protect themselves from them. it reminds me of that warren of rabbits in the book "Watership Down". they figured that easy access to food because the farmer fed them was worth a small percentage of them being killed off for dinner in return. Hey, relax,, if we all huddle together like rabbits, then the odds that any particular one  us of will be killed off by gangsters is small. BUT…..the odds that some of us  be killed by thugs with guns are 100:0 Of course the "SPECIAL" folks get guns, not a lottery like the rest of us.

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Republicans > >Reject > >Don’t make Bush the issue > He is the issue. > >Hey, the Liberal Lefty that got shot in the town hall in NYC a few days > >ago, was packin. > That  "liberal lefty" was anything but. He was a decorated and distinguished > ex-cop. Does it make you feel good to be dissing cops now? > I have a flower pot over here, that is decorated and distinguished > <thinking> > BOTH, a decorated and distinguished cop, and a decorated and > distinguished hamburger flipper have an equal right to carry a hand gun > for self protection. > <thinking> > BTW, that decorated and distinguished cop, became a Liberal Lefty > politician, and continued to carry only through his POLITICAL > So the Elite Liberal Lefty Politician is not an equal to John & Jane > Doe, when it comes to EQUAL rights to self-protection under the > <thinking> > So Tink, there you have it!!!!! > The Liberal Lefty Politicians pack heat, for all other’s, > *they* can call 911 for Duddly Doo Right, > <thinking> > Hello, this is Duddly Doo Right. > All lines are busy right now. > Your call is important to us, > so please stay on the line, > and one of my representatives > will be with you as soon as possible. > <music background> > If this is a REAL emergency, > you can press #1 at anytime, > and record your message for Duddy Doo Right. > <music background> > If this is a non emergency, > Duddly Doo Right’s web site is > located at http://Duddy-Doo-Right.gov > You can check the latest violent crime areas, > and reports of citizen service outages. > There are also interesting articles on how more > gun control laws will make our streets safer, > for you and your family. > There is our new "What’s New" section you can click on, > and download sound clips of the latest anti-crime and > anti-gun violence speeches by local and federal officials. > <music background> > Hello, this is Duddly Doo Right. > All lines are busy right now. > Your call is important to us, > so please stay on the line, > and one of my representatives > will be with you as soon as possible. > <music background> > If this is a REAL emergency, > you can press #1 at anytime, > and record your message for Duddy Doo Right. > <music background> > If this is a non emergency, > Duddly Doo Right’s web site is > located at http://Duddy-Doo-Right.gov > You can check the latest violent crime areas, > and reports of citizen service outages. > There are also interesting articles on how more > gun control laws will make our streets safer, > for you and your family. > There is our new "What’s New" section you can click on, > and download sound clips of the latest anti-crime and > anti-gun violence speeches by local and federal officials. > <thinking> > There is no more World Trade Center, in the New York Skyline. > <thinking> > Here’s another reality across this land!!!!! > Because of the Liberal Lefty’s in New York City and other cities across > the USA,…. > there are more DECORATED and DISTINGUISHED *CRIMINALS*, carrying on the > streets, than there are Law Abiding Citizens with a carry permit. > <thinking> > Ya know, it really seems the Liberal Lefty really doesn’t want crime, > like cancer, to disappear. > Look at all the doctors, Duddly Doo Rights, and Lefty Liberals that > Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Time Electronics. > http://www.timeelect.com > Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, >        Music & Studio Production, > Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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• 'Million Mom' Anti-Gun Rally Draws Just Four Marchers

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  Just three years ago, America’s gun controllers were able to fill Washington, D.C.’s National Mall with enthusiastic Second Amendment foes in an event dubbed "The Million Mom March." But last week, the ranks were considerable thinner for a rally by the "Million Moms" in Florida. "Four people came," reports the Palm Beach Post. Held outside the West Palm Beach City Hall, the protest was supposed to commemorate national ASK Day, a day designed to remind parents to ask whether guns are in the houses where their children play. Rally organizer Ann Nanni told the paper that she spent last week sending out press releases, calling TV stations and issuing invitations to prominent figures whose support could advance the cause. Invited dignitaries included Sheriff Ed Bieluch, West Palm Beach Police Chief Ric Bradshaw, State Attorney Barry Krischer and Palm Beach Mayor Lesly Smith. But none of them came, admitted Nanni. She says no one even bothered to RSVP. http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/6/30/95750 Freep

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  >Just three years ago, America’s gun controllers were able to fill >Washington, D.C.’s National Mall with enthusiastic Second Amendment foes in >an event dubbed "The Million Mom March."

  Hell, they didn’t come close to filling it or having more than maybe 150,000 in attendance. I think USA TODAY did an aerial photo spread in one issue that illustrated it perfectly.

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Just three years ago, America’s gun controllers were able to fill > Washington, D.C.’s National Mall with enthusiastic Second Amendment foes in > an event dubbed "The Million Mom March." > But last week, the ranks were considerable thinner for a rally by the > "Million Moms" in Florida. > "Four people came," reports the Palm Beach Post. > Held outside the West Palm Beach City Hall, the protest was supposed to > commemorate national ASK Day, a day designed to remind parents to ask > whether guns are in the houses where their children play. > Rally organizer Ann Nanni told the paper that she spent last week sending > out press releases, calling TV stations and issuing invitations to prominent > figures whose support could advance the cause. > Invited dignitaries included Sheriff Ed Bieluch, West Palm Beach Police > Chief Ric Bradshaw, State Attorney Barry Krischer and Palm Beach Mayor Lesly > Smith. > But none of them came, admitted Nanni. She says no one even bothered to > RSVP. > http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/6/30/95750 > Freep

  Yep, it’s the *hammer* syndrome. Telling, everyone graphically how deadly the hammer is long enough, and that a  "assault hammer" ban is needed to stop the carnage of the hammer in the hands of irresponsible idiots and the criminal element of our society, may gather a following of only the emotional and the uneducated. But, in due time, even the garden slug gets smart enough to see the hammer as a useful tool, to effect repairs in what surrounds him. When the house is falling apart, a hammer "ban" is NOT, what is Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  >When the house is falling apart, a hammer "ban" is NOT, what is

          Sooo…. Hammer Control is being able to hit the nail.         What about those automatic nail guns ? Is there really a sporting purpose for 200 nail magazines ?         Has anyone ever used a nail gun in amp cabinet construction ? I would think that the proper nail in a tight, glued joint could be pretty strong, much like a dowel. —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—

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  Well I think they should legalize explosives – it’s not Centex or C4 that kills, it’s the terrorist who abuses it )))) While we’re at it, how about TOW RPGs and Stinger missiles???? If a corrupt government agency should come after the homestead with Apache Helicoptors & Bradleys what good is a measly AK47 or AR15???? ))) And Conceled Carry – they ought to pass that for all federal buildings in D.C. including the White House tour and the Capital visitor galleries. I’d sleep much easier at night knowing that responsible armed citizens would be present to take care of any disturbances )) FWIW I’d prefer they register owners rather than guns. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Yep, it’s the *hammer* syndrome. > Telling, everyone graphically how deadly the hammer is long enough, and > that a  "assault hammer" ban is needed to stop the carnage of the hammer > in the hands of irresponsible idiots and the criminal element of our > society, may gather a following of only the emotional and the > uneducated. > But, in due time, even the garden slug gets smart enough to see the > hammer as a useful tool, to effect repairs in what surrounds him. > When the house is falling apart, a hammer "ban" is NOT, what is

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  >Just three years ago, America’s gun controllers were able to fill >Washington, D.C.’s National Mall with enthusiastic Second Amendment foes in >an event dubbed "The Million Mom March." >But last week, the ranks were considerable thinner for a rally by the >"Million Moms" in Florida. >"Four people came," reports the Palm Beach Post.

  Bruahaha! Freep, you made my day! Ernst (armed to the teeth) — Is that a tube in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?

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  > "assault hammer" ban

  Please stop it! I just blew my hotdog through my nose… :^)))))))))))) Ernst — Is that a tube in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?

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  > FWIW I’d prefer they register owners rather than guns.

  Okay, I… think… they would do them both at the same time… that would be the point, wouldn’t it? Zoid —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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  >    What about those automatic nail guns ? Is there really a > sporting purpose for 200 nail magazines ?

  The Second Amendment has nothing to do with sport.  It’s purpose is to ensure that Americans will *ALWAYS* have a means to fight oppressive government.  *OUR* government. Checks and balances… Happy Hunting, Jerry

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  > Well I think they should legalize explosives – it’s not Centex or C4 > that kills, it’s the terrorist who abuses it )))) While we’re at it, > how about TOW RPGs and Stinger missiles???? If a corrupt government > agency should come after the homestead with Apache Helicoptors & > Bradleys what good is a measly AK47 or AR15???? ))) And Conceled > Carry – they ought to pass that for all federal buildings in D.C. > including the White House tour and the Capital visitor galleries. I’d > sleep much easier at night knowing that responsible armed citizens would > be present to take care of any disturbances ))

  Throw out the smileys, and I agree with ya! 8^) > FWIW I’d prefer they register owners rather than guns.

  How about… neither?

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  > Please stop it! I just blew my hotdog through my nose…

  Did anyone get a picture?  I hope that’s a single shot nose, and not an evyl assault nose! Whatever you do, don’t read: http://www.rru.com/~meo/WiredDiff/ch01/rkba.1.html http://www.rru.com/~meo/WiredDiff/ch01/killers.html http://www.rru.com/~meo/WiredDiff/ch04/mall.html I hadn’t even realized I had written on that subject three times!

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  >>     What about those automatic nail guns ? Is there really a > sporting purpose for 200 nail magazines ? > The Second Amendment has nothing to do with sport.  It’s purpose is to > ensure that Americans will *ALWAYS* have a means to fight oppressive > government.  *OUR* government. Checks and balances…

  So you use an automatic nail gun for defense, but not for hunting????

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  > FWIW I’d prefer they register owners rather than guns.

  Yeah, they could tattoo registration numbers on the gun owner’s arms.  Good idea.

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  How’s that SAAB in your driveway?  Only got hammer?  Every thing looks like a nail.     Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just three years ago, America’s gun controllers were able to fill > Washington, D.C.’s National Mall with enthusiastic Second Amendment foes in > an event dubbed "The Million Mom March." > But last week, the ranks were considerable thinner for a rally by the > "Million Moms" in Florida. > "Four people came," reports the Palm Beach Post. > Held outside the West Palm Beach City Hall, the protest was supposed to > commemorate national ASK Day, a day designed to remind parents to ask > whether guns are in the houses where their children play. > Rally organizer Ann Nanni told the paper that she spent last week sending > out press releases, calling TV stations and issuing invitations to prominent > figures whose support could advance the cause. > Invited dignitaries included Sheriff Ed Bieluch, West Palm Beach Police > Chief Ric Bradshaw, State Attorney Barry Krischer and Palm Beach Mayor Lesly > Smith. > But none of them came, admitted Nanni. She says no one even bothered to > RSVP. > http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/6/30/95750 > Freep > Yep, it’s the *hammer* syndrome. > Telling, everyone graphically how deadly the hammer is long enough, and > that a  "assault hammer" ban is needed to stop the carnage of the hammer > in the hands of irresponsible idiots and the criminal element of our > society, may gather a following of only the emotional and the > uneducated. > But, in due time, even the garden slug gets smart enough to see the > hammer as a useful tool, to effect repairs in what surrounds him. > When the house is falling apart, a hammer "ban" is NOT, what is > Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Time Electronics. > http://www.timeelect.com > Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, >        Music & Studio Production, > Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  Ah yah, bar codes.    Chris – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> FWIW I’d prefer they register owners rather than guns. > Yeah, they could tattoo registration numbers on the gun owner’s arms.  Good > idea.

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  > > FWIW I’d prefer they register owners rather than guns. > Okay, I… think… they would do them both at the same time… that would > be the point, wouldn’t it?

  Nope, you’re never going to stop someone who’s smuggling in 1/2 mil worth of drugs from also smuggling AK47s that cost ~$50 in 3rd world countries. Do the background-check and license owners up-front, then require them to present the proper ID in order to purchase guns or ammo. You reduce the ‘impulse’/'friend’/'teen’ buys and get rid of the waiting period. All the dealer would have to do is check a revoked/stolen ID list, not unlike checking for stolen credit cards. Of course Law enforcement and the courts would have to do their part. You could also have different classes of licenses so for example some collectors would be allowed to have military stuff like WWII heavy BARs. I don’t buy all the scare tactics people toss around about taking away all guns. There are some bleeding hearts who would do that, but seriously would someone like Tom Daschle stand a chance of re-election in S. Dakota if he did?? Would anyone in Texas????? IMO the debate should be about where to draw the line and what’s appropriate for specific areas. I think most would agree that letting a teen buy C4 or armor piercing 50 cal rounds at WalMart is off the scale. Concealed carry is two very different things for places like Wyoming and Colorado vs. New York City or D.C. Maybe the issue is too emotionally charges for rational debate.

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  >>>     What about those automatic nail guns ? Is there really a >> sporting purpose for 200 nail magazines ? > The Second Amendment has nothing to do with sport.  It’s purpose is to > ensure that Americans will *ALWAYS* have a means to fight oppressive > government.  *OUR* government. Checks and balances… >So you use an automatic nail gun for >defense, but not for hunting????

          No, I build cabinets with a Redhawk and a SW5906. The 9mm is much better for dovetailing. —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > FWIW I’d prefer they register owners rather than guns. > Okay, I… think… they would do them both at the same time… that would > be the point, wouldn’t it? >Nope, you’re never going to stop someone who’s smuggling in 1/2 mil >worth of drugs from also smuggling AK47s that cost ~$50 in 3rd world >countries. Do the background-check and license owners up-front, then >require them to present the proper ID in order to purchase guns or ammo. >You reduce the ‘impulse’/'friend’/'teen’ buys and get rid of the waiting >period. All the dealer would have to do is check a revoked/stolen ID >list, not unlike checking for stolen credit cards. Of course Law >enforcement and the courts would have to do their part. You could also >have different classes of licenses so for example some collectors would >be allowed to have military stuff like WWII heavy BARs. >I don’t buy all the scare tactics people toss around about taking away >all guns. There are some bleeding hearts who would do that, but >seriously would someone like Tom Daschle stand a chance of re-election >in S. Dakota if he did?? Would anyone in Texas????? IMO the debate >should be about where to draw the line and what’s appropriate for >specific areas. I think most would agree that letting a teen buy C4 or >armor piercing 50 cal rounds at WalMart is off the scale. Concealed >carry is two very different things for places like Wyoming and Colorado >vs. New York City or D.C. Maybe the issue is too emotionally charges for >rational debate.

  A lot of existing gun law is pretty straight-forward and there’s no need for it not to be. Let me fill you in on a part of it: Some of the stuff you mention falls in a different legal category from regular guns. Back in 1934 with the gangster problem machine guns and "destructive devices" were brought under federal control. This includes automatic fire weapons, bores over .50 cal, along with grenades and other novelties. The requirements for that permit are pretty tough including a sign-off by the local sheriff. Let’s put it this way, there has been exactly ONE (1) homocide commited using a legally owned machine gun in all the time that law has been in effect. Concealed and open carry laws are entirely within the authority of the states – artifact of the politics following the Civil War. Last I looked, about 5 years ago, open carry was permitted in 25 states, yep half of ‘em.  Concealed carry has always been legally "special" and has almost always required a permit. Odd, that today concealed carry is considered more normal than open carry. Ron

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  > FWIW I’d prefer they register owners rather than guns. > Yeah, they could tattoo registration numbers on the gun owner’s arms. Good > idea.

  oh man. did you actually just say that? because "the oppression" gun owners face is pretty similiar to what victims of the holocaust went through….

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  >Concealed and open carry laws are entirely within the authority of the states >- >artifact of the politics following the Civil War. Last I looked, about 5 >years >ago, open carry was permitted in 25 states, yep half of ‘em.

  Actually, the count is up to 35 with Minnesota recently signing on to allow people to protect themselves. > Odd, >that today concealed carry is considered more normal than open carry. >Ron

  Not really, considering that open carry could net you legal trouble by "brandishing" a firearm.  All someone has to claim is that they feel "threatened" by the way you carry a gun, and you’re screwed … especially if they can act.  Which it seems one thing leftists are good at, since they seem to be infesting Hollyweird. Lostpup198 ‘97 FXSTSB (…and then some!) JAMFHDO #1

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  > Odd, >that today concealed carry is considered more normal than open carry. >Ron

  Also gotta add the obvious … open carry is essentially painting a target on your back if you were to get caught in some kind of robbery …  Also a good way for a criminal to acquire their next gun … either shoot you first and take it.  Or follow you home, and take it when you’re at church or PTA meeting. Lostpup198 ‘97 FXSTSB (…and then some!) JAMFHDO #1

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > FWIW I’d prefer they register owners rather than guns. > Okay, I… think… they would do them both at the same time… that would > be the point, wouldn’t it? > Nope, you’re never going to stop someone who’s smuggling in 1/2 mil > worth of drugs from also smuggling AK47s that cost ~$50 in 3rd world > countries. Do the background-check and license owners up-front, then > require them to present the proper ID in order to purchase guns or ammo. > You reduce the ‘impulse’/'friend’/'teen’ buys and get rid of the waiting > period. All the dealer would have to do is check a revoked/stolen ID > list, not unlike checking for stolen credit cards. Of course Law > enforcement and the courts would have to do their part. You could also > have different classes of licenses so for example some collectors would > be allowed to have military stuff like WWII heavy BARs. > I don’t buy all the scare tactics people toss around about taking away > all guns. There are some bleeding hearts who would do that, but > seriously would someone like Tom Daschle stand a chance of re-election > in S. Dakota if he did?? Would anyone in Texas????? IMO the debate

  > should be about where to draw the line and what’s appropriate for > specific areas. I think most would agree that letting a teen buy C4 or > armor piercing 50 cal rounds at WalMart is off the scale. Concealed > carry is two very different things for places like Wyoming and Colorado > vs. New York City or D.C. Maybe the issue is too emotionally charges for > rational debate.

  Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> > FWIW I’d prefer they register owners rather than guns. >> Okay, I… think… they would do them both at the same time… that would >> be the point, wouldn’t it? >Nope, you’re never going to stop someone who’s smuggling in 1/2 mil >worth of drugs from also smuggling AK47s that cost ~$50 in 3rd world >countries. Do the background-check and license owners up-front, then >require them to present the proper ID in order to purchase guns or ammo. >You reduce the ‘impulse’/'friend’/'teen’ buys and get rid of the waiting >period. All the dealer would have to do is check a revoked/stolen ID >list, not unlike checking for stolen credit cards. Of course Law >enforcement and the courts would have to do their part. You could also >have different classes of licenses so for example some collectors would >be allowed to have military stuff like WWII heavy BARs. >I don’t buy all the scare tactics people toss around about taking away >all guns. There are some bleeding hearts who would do that, but >seriously would someone like Tom Daschle stand a chance of re-election >in S. Dakota if he did?? Would anyone in Texas????? IMO the debate >should be about where to draw the line and what’s appropriate for >specific areas. I think most would agree that letting a teen buy C4 or >armor piercing 50 cal rounds at WalMart is off the scale. Concealed >carry is two very different things for places like Wyoming and Colorado >vs. New York City or D.C. Maybe the issue is too emotionally charges for >rational debate. > A lot of existing gun law is pretty straight-forward and there’s no need for it > not to be. Let me fill you in on a part of it: > Some of the stuff you mention falls in a different legal category from regular > guns. Back in 1934 with the gangster problem machine guns and "destructive > devices" were brought under federal control. This includes automatic fire > weapons, bores over .50 cal, along with grenades and other novelties. The > requirements for that permit are pretty tough including a sign-off by the local > sheriff. Let’s put it this way, there has been exactly ONE (1) homocide commited > using a legally owned machine gun in all the time that law has been in effect. > Concealed and open carry laws are entirely within the authority of the states – > artifact of the politics following the Civil War. Last I looked, about 5 years > ago, open carry was permitted in 25 states, yep half of ‘em.  Concealed carry > has always been legally "special" and has almost always required a permit. Odd, > that today concealed carry is considered more normal than open carry. > Ron

  <cold sweats breaking out> <waves of terror hitting> <sigh> I guess I’ll Just Have To  Call A Cop To Fix The Security Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A lot of existing gun law is pretty straight-forward and there’s no need for it > not to be. Let me fill you in on a part of it: > Some of the stuff you mention falls in a different legal category from regular > guns. Back in 1934 with the gangster problem machine guns and "destructive > devices" were brought under federal control. This includes automatic fire > weapons, bores over .50 cal, along with grenades and other novelties. The > requirements for that permit are pretty tough including a sign-off by the local > sheriff. Let’s put it this way, there has been exactly ONE (1) homocide commited > using a legally owned machine gun in all the time that law has been in effect. > Concealed and open carry laws are entirely within the authority of the states – > artifact of the politics following the Civil War. Last I looked, about 5 years > ago, open carry was permitted in 25 states, yep half of ‘em.  Concealed carry > has always been legally "special" and has almost always required a permit. Odd, > that today concealed carry is considered more normal than open carry. > Ron

  I think the concealed carry debate is usually thought of today in terms of urban areas. Open carry allows ranchers, farmers, etc., to be armed. I’d like to see how one of those peta-types would deal with a pack of wild dogs that increasingly roam the north woods Some local Sherriffs have been known to grant concealed carry permits in exchange for campaign contributions…. Gun laws are becoming anything but straight forward. Around here, you can get in trouble just driving from one state to another thru different counties, towns, & cities with an unloaded shotgun in the trunk(ex. – where is the ammo stored, is the gun cased, is it a hard case, is it locked, does it have a trigger lock…). IMHO the extreme position taken by the NRA and some conservatives is almost as far-out as the anti’s and is partly to blame for this mess. Example – "Guns don’t kill, people do" – fine, I’m saying license the people not the guns. "Existing laws against Felons owning guns are more than sufficient IF they were enforced" but the way some interpret the Constitution, law enforcement would have no conceivable way to enforce that. What we need is some rational laws with some kind of national minimum standards, but the debate has become so polarized that’s becoming impossible and some local governments are taking matters into their own hands while the NRA is starting to be viewed by Joe Public as an extremist group(not good). If I remember right in addition to the ‘gangster’ ban, military weapons were banned even earlier – can’t have a working German 88 in the back yard – damn ))

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  > Gun laws are becoming anything but straight forward. Around here, you

  Kinda the point.  The more they add, the more absurd it gets. > can get in trouble just driving from one state to another thru different > counties, towns, & cities with an unloaded shotgun in the trunk(ex. – > where is the ammo stored, is the gun cased, is it a hard case, is it > locked, does it have a trigger lock…). IMHO the extreme position taken > by the NRA and some conservatives is almost as far-out as the anti’s and

  What’s extreme about it? > is partly to blame for this mess. Example – "Guns don’t kill, people > do" – fine, I’m saying license the people not the guns. "Existing laws > against Felons owning guns are more than sufficient IF they were > enforced" but the way some interpret the Constitution, law enforcement > would have no conceivable way to enforce that. What we need is some > rational laws with some kind of national minimum standards,

  If you can’t trust that the laws will be enforced, what is the point of more laws? -Miles

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• How to get pen ink off plastic?

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  What about Denatured Alcohol?

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A while back I had a pen casualty in the same pocket as my cell phone, > resulting in several splotches on the case.  As is readily apparent by a > close inspection of the case, there was no contamination of the > interior.  The phone continued to function normally. > Friday the charging system started to malfunction.  The service center > denied me satisfaction, stating the warranty had been voided by > "cosmetic damage". > Anyone know of a way to remove ink from a plastic surface w/out marring > the surface?

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  > A while back I had a pen casualty in the same pocket as my cell phone, > resulting in several splotches on the case.  As is readily apparent by a > close inspection of the case, there was no contamination of the > interior.  The phone continued to function normally. > Friday the charging system started to malfunction.  The service center > denied me satisfaction, stating the warranty had been voided by > "cosmetic damage". > Anyone know of a way to remove ink from a plastic surface w/out marring > the surface?

  First I’d dig out the warranty information they provided you and see how they define their terms.  You might have run into a no-brainer that was just looking for any excuse to get you out the door. What kind of phone?  Most of them have replacement "shells" to customize the phone to your favorite color scheme. They sell them on eBay all the time.  Put a new shell on it and see what they say then. — Papa Koca – SAHD to 6 – A career home-educator Keeper of the Perpetual Kindergarten Change scrap to scape, and com to net (twice)

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  > A while back I had a pen casualty in the same pocket as my cell phone, > resulting in several splotches on the case.  As is readily apparent by a > close inspection of the case, there was no contamination of the > interior.  The phone continued to function normally. > Friday the charging system started to malfunction.  The service center > denied me satisfaction, stating the warranty had been voided by > "cosmetic damage". > Anyone know of a way to remove ink from a plastic surface w/out marring > the surface?

  Try a mild petroleum based solvent like mineral spirits, WD40, banana oil or Goo-Gone.  The ink probably has penetrated into the surface of the plastic in which case abrasion (rubber ink erasor) may be the only way. Regards, John

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  A chap hairspray will usually do the trick — Herb Boulder, CO

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A while back I had a pen casualty in the same pocket as my cell phone, > resulting in several splotches on the case.  As is readily apparent by a > close inspection of the case, there was no contamination of the > interior.  The phone continued to function normally. > Friday the charging system started to malfunction.  The service center > denied me satisfaction, stating the warranty had been voided by > "cosmetic damage". > Anyone know of a way to remove ink from a plastic surface w/out marring > the surface? > Try a mild petroleum based solvent like mineral spirits, WD40, banana oil or > Goo-Gone.  The ink probably has penetrated into the surface of the plastic in > which case abrasion (rubber ink erasor) may be the only way. > Regards, > John

  Response:

  Thanks for all the suggestions. As for the warranty, it is carefully worded so as to allow Sprint to deny coverage if "…any part…including antenna [has] cosmetic damage [or] any plastic surfaces or…externally exposed parts…are scratched or damaged due to normal use…"  Apparently I voided the warranty by taking it out of the box. The hairspray worked great.  After wiping off the ink, even from the rubber antenna boot, I looked at my wife and said "And you put this stuff on your head??"

  Response:

  > Car brake fluid can also remove ink and about anything else from many > plastics, like styrene, ABS, polypropylene, and I think polycarbonate > (your phone case is probably made of one of these) without harming > them.  But it also eats paint, and you should first test it on an area > where cosmetic damage won’t be harmful.

  Dot 3? There is more than one type of brake fluid available. The polyglycol type (dot3) is a good solvent for "indelible" magic marker type inks. Regards, John

  Response:

  clipped >Hmm… get a stencil and use the same color ink to put your name or some design >over the marks.  Let your artistic side go and all your friends will want one >too. >Regards, >John

  I like the idea of a tattoo )  Or a dab of white paint.  Or a case.

  Response:

  Hair spray … no joke!!   —  pj

  Response:

  > A while back I had a pen casualty in the same pocket as my > cell phone, resulting in several splotches on the case.   > Anyone know of a way to remove ink from a plastic surface > w/out marring the surface?

  Try waterless hand cleaner, Goop being a common brand.  It’s sold in car parts departments of stores and is a good solvent for ink but doesn’t seem to harm plastics. Car brake fluid can also remove ink and about anything else from many plastics, like styrene, ABS, polypropylene, and I think polycarbonate (your phone case is probably made of one of these) without harming them.  But it also eats paint, and you should first test it on an area where cosmetic damage won’t be harmful. If the ink hasn’t soaked in (common with ink, which is why you don’t want to try alcohol on because it lets it soak in even more), you may be able to remove it by rubbing it with a dry 100% cotton cloth.  Fine polish on the cloth can also help, and Meguiar’s auto "spiderweb" scratch remover is safe on about all plastics.  Toothpaste is safe for most hard plastics except polycarbonate. The safest choice for toothpaste is Colgate regular, which is among the least abrasive. Cotton cloth is the least abrasive fabric.

  Response:

  Finger Nail Polish Remover might work. Jennifer

  Response:

  > Finger Nail Polish Remover might work.

  Polish remover contains acetone which is solvent for many plastics.  You would have to test it somewhere inconspicuous to determine if it dissolves or softens the plastic.  It is more agressive than most cleaner/solvents.  MEK (Methyl Ethyl Ketone) is even more potent and can be obtained at hdwe. and paint stores, but I would scrape the mark off rather than go through the solvent trial and error method.  Assuming that I was complusive enough that I couldn’t tolerate the cosmetic marks. Hmm… get a stencil and use the same color ink to put your name or some design over the marks.  Let your artistic side go and all your friends will want one too. Regards, John

  Response:

  A while back I had a pen casualty in the same pocket as my cell phone, resulting in several splotches on the case.  As is readily apparent by a close inspection of the case, there was no contamination of the interior.  The phone continued to function normally. Friday the charging system started to malfunction.  The service center denied me satisfaction, stating the warranty had been voided by "cosmetic damage". Anyone know of a way to remove ink from a plastic surface w/out marring the surface?

  Response:

  > A while back I had a pen casualty in the same pocket as my cell phone, > resulting in several splotches on the case. > Friday the charging system started to malfunction.  The service center > denied me satisfaction, stating the warranty had been voided by > "cosmetic damage".

  What the h… does cosmetic damage have to do with an electrical malfunction????  Tell them yolu painted it that way and you like it. I’d be all over someone about that. > Anyone know of a way to remove ink from a plastic surface w/out marring > the surface?

  Yes, there is a good product for ink removal. I can’t think of the name of it right now, but post to alt.collecting.pens-pencils or do a Google search on it.  The stuff is available at any good stationary store. I used it on a shirt and it left no traces. Damn, wish I could recall it, but most any pen enthusiast can help. One problem with plastics is they often absorb dyes.  If that is the case, you are out of luck as it is not easily bleached out. Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

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  No comments tattoo idea
  
  

• Bass related Tattoo's?

  Question:

  I have 2!  I have a bass clef on my right shoulder and a silhouette of a dude playing a double bass in on my left shoulder… gotten when I was 18 – now 27… still not regretting!!!! Bass, born and bred. You?

  Response:

  I have a 3 inch bass clef on my left shoulder blade.  _ ‘ ):    Ted Partin  /     http://members.aol.com/dblbassted

  Response:

  > I have a 3 inch bass clef on my left shoulder blade.

  3 inches?  Sheesh. I’ve got a 12 inch staff with the bass part to Flight of the Valkyries tattooed on my … isn’t this a family newsgroup?   Steve

  Response:

  No bass oriented stuff but 3/4 of my back covered with dragons. Wanted to get Eddie from Iron Maiden playing a Fender P-bass. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have 2!  I have a bass clef on my right shoulder and a silhouette of a > dude playing a double bass in on my left shoulder… gotten when I was 18 – > now 27… still not regretting!!!! > Bass, born and bred. > You?

  Response:

  Virgin Canvas here. My tastes change so often I can’t decide on anything. Which is good I suppose. I might have ended up with a neon yellow ,pointy headstock ,shark fin inlay bass on my arm. Or a tattoo of Kip Winger…. What would I do then huh?? Jay S – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have 2!  I have a bass clef on my right shoulder and a silhouette of a > dude playing a double bass in on my left shoulder… gotten when I was 18 – > now 27… still not regretting!!!! > Bass, born and bred. > You?

  Response:

  > Or a tattoo of Kip Winger….

  hahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha LOL!

  Response:

  > I have 2!  I have a bass clef on my right shoulder and a silhouette of a > dude playing a double bass in on my left shoulder… gotten when I was 18 – > now 27… still not regretting!!!! > Bass, born and bred. > You?

  Good question! I had one done about ten years ago and I’m still pleased with it.It’s a design I spotted in a magazine in the Tattooist’s waiting room of a (sorry about this folks) treble clef ingeniously converted to a double bass being played by a bloke in silouhette,all black,no colours.Saved me from one of those boring Celtic crosses you see so much of nowadays. SR

  Response:

  Good thread this… I think we should have a bass tatt gallery… it could add to a new section that I’m thinking of for agb.com.  I bought my slimming mag yesterday and it had a 2003 calendar with a bunch of guys that had lost loads of weight as the pin ups.  One of the guys is a bassist and is posing with only his bass to hide his modesty. It made me think of a ladies section for agb. What’s that? No one approves!? Well I thought it was a good idea! It’s not for my benefit… I have my very own pin up bass guy right here. I thought it may encourage the ladies to stick around a bit more. — PLL’C <sorry for hijacking this thread>

  Response:

  Hey Steve – I think your ‘pooter clock is confused – either that or you’ve discovered time travel and haven’t told us — PLL’C

  Response:

  > Hey Steve – I think your ‘pooter clock is confused – either that or you’ve > discovered time travel and haven’t told us > — > PLL’C

  Lol.It’s me that’s confused I have no idea of the techy side of puters.According to my OE your message was sent at 6.25 this morning! The clock seems to tell the right time tho…at the next bleep the time will be 2.37 pm….exterminate!exterminate! Anyhows,I managed to upload a pic of my tatty just now to http://www.pbase.com/eadg/tattoos if anyones interested.Please excuse the dodgy focus – I had to use the self timer as my silly dog can’t work the camera and the wife’s not due home from working down the pit till later SR

  Response:

  "I recommend getting a tattoo, it preserves the things you love. (Looks at his tattoo.) Starland Vocal Band? They suck!" – Homer Simpson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Virgin Canvas here. > My tastes change so often I can’t decide on anything. Which is good I > suppose. > I might have ended up with a neon yellow ,pointy headstock ,shark fin inlay > bass on my arm. > Or a tattoo of Kip Winger…. > What would I do then huh?? > Jay S > I have 2!  I have a bass clef on my right shoulder and a silhouette of a > dude playing a double bass in on my left shoulder… gotten when I was > 18 – > now 27… still not regretting!!!! > Bass, born and bred. > You?

  Response:

  I’ve got three tats.  An Italian Flag and a British flag crossed on my right arm (My parents both emigrated from Europe..my Dad from Italy, my Mom from England), a snake on my left leg, and a tribal style band on my left arm with my children’s first initials in the design.  Its not the normal tribal, I had it done in color..black fading to blue fading to green fading to orange fading to yellow.  I like it!  I think my next one is going to be bass related.  I can’t decide between a bass cleff in the same color pattern as my tribal, or a good old Fender bass.

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey Steve – I think your ‘pooter clock is confused – either that or you’ve > discovered time travel and haven’t told us > — > PLL’C > Lol.It’s me that’s confused > I have no idea of the techy side of puters.According to my OE your message > was sent at 6.25 this morning! > The clock seems to tell the right time tho…at the next bleep the time will > be 2.37 pm….exterminate!exterminate! > Anyhows,I managed to upload a pic of my tatty just now to > http://www.pbase.com/eadg/tattoos if anyones interested.Please excuse the > dodgy focus – I had to use the self timer as my silly dog can’t work the > camera and the wife’s not due home from working down the pit till later > SR

  Response:

  > Lol.It’s me that’s confused > I have no idea of the techy side of puters.According to my OE your message > was sent at 6.25 this morning! > The clock seems to tell the right time tho…at the next bleep the time will > be 2.37 pm….exterminate!exterminate!

  <shudders> Oooh, I used to lay in bed wandering if daleks could get up stairs. Hmm – I noticed the other day that you were in some type of time warp – if your pooter clock is right then maybe it’s ur ISP – I dunno! > Anyhows,I managed to upload a pic of my tatty just now to > http://www.pbase.com/eadg/tattoos if anyones interested.Please excuse the > dodgy focus – I had to use the self timer as my silly dog can’t work the > camera and the wife’s not due home from working down the pit till later

  Oh yeh. Looks like you’ve had that one for a few years Steve  I guess the only musical instrument that you could morph a bass clef into would be a harp? Or maracas!? lol! — PLL’C

  Response:

  > Lol.It’s me that’s confused > I have no idea of the techy side of puters.According to my OE your message > was sent at 6.25 this morning! > The clock seems to tell the right time tho…at the next bleep the time > will > be 2.37 pm….exterminate!exterminate! > <shudders> > Oooh, I used to lay in bed wandering if daleks could get up stairs. > Hmm – I noticed the other day that you were in some type of time warp – if > your pooter clock is right then maybe it’s ur ISP – I dunno!

  Well I’m with NTL so it would’nt surprise me.The last few months it’s news server has been hopeless – 30mins a day if you’re lucky – but I’ve found some different servers that seem a slight improvement so fongers crossed. > Anyhows,I managed to upload a pic of my tatty just now to > http://www.pbase.com/eadg/tattoos if anyones interested.Please excuse the > dodgy focus – I had to use the self timer as my silly dog can’t work the > camera and the wife’s not due home from working down the pit till later > Oh yeh. Looks like you’ve had that one for a few years Steve  I guess > the only musical instrument that you could morph a bass clef into would be a > harp? Or maracas!? lol!

  It’s possible with a trombone,but you need a big hammer… ;^) SR

  Response:

  I have Jaco’s "Donna Lee" in TAB format going across my chest. — -rob    O> /()    ^^

  Response:

  Backwards, I hope. —     Oc    () )   //^^  // / Bud LeCompte http://budlecompte.com

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have Jaco’s "Donna Lee" in TAB format going across my chest. > — > -rob >    O> > /() >    ^^

  Response:

  Or upside down… SR

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Backwards, I hope. > — >     Oc >    () ) >   file://^^ >  // > / > Bud LeCompte > http://budlecompte.com > I have Jaco’s "Donna Lee" in TAB format going across my chest. > — > -rob >    O> > /() >    ^^

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  Ya’ know… I’ve seen co-workers come into work in the morning with their name tags upside down or backwards.  Never put them on after you have the shirt on o.k.?  <sheesh> r. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Or upside down… >Backwards, I hope. >>I have Jaco’s "Donna Lee" in TAB format going across my chest. >>– >>-rob >>   O> >>/() >>   ^^

  – -rob    O> /()    ^^

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  No comments tattoo idea
  
  

• Questionairre Anyone?

  Question:

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oddly enough, I’ve never had my info stolen on the internet… now when my > car was broken into, they swiped a credit card reciept and used the number > to bill things on the internet…. > Augh. I don’t *ever* ask people that kind of information on a public board. > Jen > Q Tylenolhead wrote, << To me this seems like a shameless attempt to > gather > info about NG members. > What that information would be good for, I have no idea, but personally > I’ve > never seen you post before, and I’d be completely unwilling to fill out > anything like this for public review. > Couldn’t snip a word, since that was precisely my reaction. > Sharon in San Jose

  And for those folks who think they are safe because they "have nothing worth stealing," our local paper reported last week that an elderly woman had her identity stolen while she was in the hospital (through her records there). Her name, etc. were used to get a credit card that was then maxed out. Ann

  Response:

  Oddly enough, I’ve never had my info stolen on the internet… now when my car was broken into, they swiped a credit card reciept and used the number to bill things on the internet…. Augh. I don’t *ever* ask people that kind of information on a public board. Jen

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Q Tylenolhead wrote, << To me this seems like a shameless attempt to gather > info about NG members. > What that information would be good for, I have no idea, but personally I’ve > never seen you post before, and I’d be completely unwilling to fill out > anything like this for public review. > Couldn’t snip a word, since that was precisely my reaction. > Sharon in San Jose

  Response:

  Not to mention the fact that getting anyone’s name, birth date and birth place gives someone enough info (in the US at least) to do some really *nasty* identity theft. For posters who might be tempted by this…. Here are some common sense guidelines to follow. 1. Do not give out your exact birthdate "just for fun", ever. 2. Do not give out your exact city of birth, either. 3. Avoid giving your full name, especially to to people you don’t know, especially in casual surveys of this sort. 4. Guard your social security number closely. 5. Avoid giving out your children and family member’s names, particularly last names. It’s usually better to refer to them as "dd" or "ds" or what have you, particularly on public boards. The more distinctive your family’s names, the better off you are going under some handle rather than your real name in most internet communities. 6. And it goes without saying that Mr. Whatsisname from Nigeria is NOT going to use your bank account information to give you 50,000,000,000. So guard it carefully. Identity theft is Not Fun. And it doesn’t take much. Jen

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> To me this seems like a shameless attempt to gather info about NG members. > What that information would be good for, I have no idea, but personally I’ve > never seen you post before, and I’d be completely unwilling to fill out > anything like this for public review. > Q Tylenolhead > FIRST NAME: Sarah > GENDER:Female > BIRTH PLACE: Lincolnshire (Scunthorpe) > HEIGHT: 5ft 2" > EYE COLOUR:Brown > HAIR COLOUR & STYLE: Short Brown hair with Blonde Streaks > ZODIAC SIGN:Sagittarius > ARE YOU IN LOVE NOW? YES very much so… To sludgebox > IS THE GLASS HALF FULL OR HALF EMPTY? As long as it qwench’s my thirst i > dont care > RIGHTY, LEFTY, OR AMBIDEXTEROUS? Righty > ROLLERCOASTERS-DEADLY OR EXCITING? Deadly Exciting > **The Future** > WHERE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF IN 10 YEARS? Married With everything to LIVE > for… > HOME? 6 bedroomed house, with 2 bathrooms a swimming pool and a nice beach > i > can watch the sun set with the Love Of My Life. Oh sorry thats more of a > Dream Home but who knows i just may get what i wish for… > NUMBER OF KIDS?Married with 9 kids. Have 4 of my own and 3 from my > Partners > past Marriage. 2 more wouldnt be so bad… > FUTURE SONS NAME? Joshua or Dominic > FUTURE DAUGHTERS NAME? HANNAH or Holly > **Have You Ever** > BEEN IN LOVE? Yes, still am… > HAD A BROKEN HEART? Yes 3 times by the same person. > BROKE SOMEONES HEART? No NEVER, I aint like some saddo’s > BROKEN THE LAW? Yes, got fined for not having a TV Licence. > BEEN IN PRISON? Nope, wouldnt want to think about it… > RAN AWAY FROM HOME? Yes, when i was 14, wanted affection and attention > from > parents but didnt get it so i did a runner. > CHEATED ON A TEST? Nope, wouldnt Dream of it… > HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY?Nope, Not Even after giving birth to 4 kids lol > GONE TO HEAVEN AND BACK?Oh Yeh Many of times… thanx > YAWNED DURING SEX? Erm Not that i recall > BEEN MARRIED? Nope, Dreamed & Wished of it but not yet experienced it…. > Maybe Some Day I Will ) Aint that Right Sludgebox??? > HAD SEX IN THE SHOWER? Oh yes, What a wonderful experience. > **Do You Believe In…** > LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT? Yes…   If i had got asked that a year ago i would > of > said not a chance > GOD? Nope. > ALIENS? Erm Nope, seen a few in my time but NO. > GHOSTS? Yes funny enough, But never seen one > HOROSCOPES? Yes, Sometimes when they say what i want to hear… > MAGIC? Not really, but sometimes its a Mystery > MIRACLES? Yes, Im living mine Now > HELL? Yes, I use to LIVE there… > HEAVEN? Yes, That is exactly where i am 24/7 > YOURSELF? Yes, I do now… > **Which One?** > IN THE CAR…Air Conditioning? OR OPEN WINDOWS? Open windows coz Dust > fly’s > out of the air vents, not NICE… Sore eyes > PEN OR PENCIL? Pen, Black mainly > CHOCOLATE OR VANILLA? Vanilla > COKE OR PEPSI? Pepsi, totally addicted > MILK? OR CHOCOLATE MILK? Milk… Less said… > ORANGES OR APPLES? Apples without the skin > ADDIDAS, NIKE OR REEBOK? Reebok. > BLONDES, BRUNETTES OR REDHEADS? Any Including grey Not really fussy as > long > as its there own… > TALL OR SHORT? Not fussy as long as there Genuine… > TV OR RADIO? Radio, never anything on TV… > T.SHIRTS OR SHIRTS? T.shirts > JEANS OR TROUSERS? Jeans > SINGLE OR DOUBLE BED? King size will do me fine > ***What…*** > WHAT IS THE BEST THING THAT HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY? Made Love…  what > else??? > WHAT WAS THE WORST THING? I Cried On My Darlings Shoulder… Awww Bless… > WHATS THE FIRST THING YOU THOUGHT OF WHEN YOU WOKE UP THIS MORNING?. I > Need > A Pee… > WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER MOST ABOUT THE PAST YEAR? Meeting the man i dreamt of it > was possible for a man to have a fairytale lifestyle with the affection > and > a whole bunch of loving to give… Thanx Sludgebox > WHATS ON YOUR MOUSE PAD? A Mouse Silly > WHAT IS THE WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD? Not being able to Help Others In > NEED > WHAT IS THE BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD? Being Loved & respected… > WHAT KIND OF SHOE WOULD YOU BE? A trainer, but wouldnt aloow to be walked > on > > WHATS UNDER YOUR BED? Erm dust & More Dust and oh not forgetting My > Vibrator > lol (I NO BOB IS GUNNA LAUGH AT THIS) My Sugar Daddy that is… > WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE NUMBER? 9 > WHATS ON THE WALLS IN YOUR ROOM? Erm Wallpaper, cob webs the odd spider > and > My Partner in a few minutes > WHAT DO YOUR WEAR TO BED? Absolutley Nothing, Aint that right Sludgebox… > WHAT ARE YOU WEARING RIGHT NOW? Erm Im Naked > WHAT SIZE SHOE ARE YOU? 7 > WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE ANIMAL? Cat, How much purrrfect can you get > WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PERSON THAT SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE??? Well I > think i am great, loveable and a bubbly bundle of laughs thanx for > asking… > > **Favourites** > TV SHOWS? Jerry Springer > GAME? Monopoly, Keeps me for hours > FRIEND? My Partner, who is My Best Friend too. > SHAMPOO? Vosene > BOOK? Romance & Murder Mystery > MAGAZINE? Take-a-Break > DRINK? Lager, Blue wicked & Tequilla the Mexican Style > SOUND? Heavy Breathing in my Right EAR during Making Love. > SMELL? My partner… > SOUNDTRACK? Pink Floyd – The Wall > BRAND OF GUM? Airways Bloody strong Mint makes my nose hurt > MOVIE? Titanic, City of Angels & What Dreams May Come with Robin williams, > its a got to see if you havent > ***About The Opposite SEX*** > WHAT DO YOU NOTICE FIRST? The Eyes >  HAIR CURLY OR STRAIGHT? Not Fussy Ok Ok Straight haha > HAIR LONG OR SHORT? Definatly Not fussy > WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DO YOU FIND ROMANTIC? Meal for 2, Walking the beach > arm > in arm, PIT STOPS (Kissing & Cuddling) > THINGS YOU LOVE MOST ABOUT THEM? Personalty, GSOH, Being themselves > EYES: BLUE, GREEN, BROWN OR HAZEL? What ever comes my way… Erm Love > Green > But Prefer BLUE… > ***Do You*** > DO YOU BITE YOUR NAILS? Nope, Got to keep them long For scratching My > Partners back during Mad Passionate Love lol > DO YOU HAVE TATTOOS? IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? Yes, one on each arm, a > Devil > with My all My Sons Names round it and Cupid for my Daughter Also one > on > my back of a Fairy all beautiful Colours that i chose myself > DO YOU HAVE PIERCINGS?IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? Yes, 1 on my eye brow, > although i think you should ask sludgebox how many he has… lol > DO YOU HAVE A PARTNER? Oh Yes & im going to hold on tight to him, > apparently > i have to fasten my seat belt > DO YOU PREFER LIGHT ON OR OFF? Off, Cant see my skin lol > DO YOU OWN A MOBILE OR CELLULAR? IF SO CAN I HAVE YOUR NUMBER??? Yes i > have > a Mobile, No You cant have the Number. > DO YOU SEE YOURSELF EVER GETTING MARRIED ONE DAY? OR AGAIN? Erm for 1 i > have > never been married and 2 I see myself getting Married in the near Future > DO YOU PREFER BATH OR SHOWER? Shower, for some reason you feel fresher… > ***Who*** > IS YOUR BIGGEST CRUSH RIGHT NOW? Yes, Most Definetly > DO YOU HATE? Yes, Only people who hurt me and my feelings… > SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE? AND IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT > THIS PERSON? I sent this questionairre and i would like to say I put alot > of > time and effort into this Questionairre & Im happy with the results > WHO HAS IT EASIER GUYS OR GIRLS?  Guys definetly, they dont have to go > through half of what women do, they dont have to think about anything coz > as > far as they are concerned there free to do as they please.  Well i do have > to admit My partner aint anything like most men, thats why i love him so > much…Although i think Most men should learn to live up to there > Responsibilities > "FAVOURITE QUOTE?" > When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long and > so > regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open > for > us…

  Response:

  > Its been quiet in here today so thought you all might like cheering up with > my questionaire??? Upto you… > Anyone With time on there hands?

  You’ve got four kids, he’s got three kids, and you have time on your hands?  Go over to misc.kids and let them know the secret. — aMAZon "It’s never too late to have a happy childhood."

  Response:

  Q Tylenolhead wrote, << To me this seems like a shameless attempt to gather info about NG members. What that information would be good for, I have no idea, but personally I’ve never seen you post before, and I’d be completely unwilling to fill out anything like this for public review.  >> Couldn’t snip a word, since that was precisely my reaction. Sharon in San Jose

  Response:

  You have to understand hun, that if it really was just a friendly gesture, I really don’t mean badly by it… I’ve been around newsgroups far too long, and my view has become somewhat cynical.  Nothing against you personally, it’s always nice to have a fresh face in any group. Q Tylenolhead – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jeez there are some funny people in here aint there, it was only to brighten > the room, it didnt mean you had to fill all in just wanted to cheer ya all > up. soz for bothering. > To me this seems like a shameless attempt to gather info about NG members. > What that information would be good for, I have no idea, but personally > I’ve > never seen you post before, and I’d be completely unwilling to fill out > anything like this for public review. > Q Tylenolhead > > FIRST NAME: Sarah > > GENDER:Female > > BIRTH PLACE: Lincolnshire (Scunthorpe) > > HEIGHT: 5ft 2" > > EYE COLOUR:Brown > > HAIR COLOUR & STYLE: Short Brown hair with Blonde Streaks > > ZODIAC SIGN:Sagittarius > > ARE YOU IN LOVE NOW? YES very much so… To sludgebox > > IS THE GLASS HALF FULL OR HALF EMPTY? As long as it qwench’s my thirst i > > dont care > > RIGHTY, LEFTY, OR AMBIDEXTEROUS? Righty > > ROLLERCOASTERS-DEADLY OR EXCITING? Deadly Exciting > > **The Future** > > WHERE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF IN 10 YEARS? Married With everything to LIVE > > for… > > HOME? 6 bedroomed house, with 2 bathrooms a swimming pool and a nice > beach > i > > can watch the sun set with the Love Of My Life. Oh sorry thats more of  a > > Dream Home but who knows i just may get what i wish for… > > NUMBER OF KIDS?Married with 9 kids. Have 4 of my own and 3 from my > Partners > > past Marriage. 2 more wouldnt be so bad… > > FUTURE SONS NAME? Joshua or Dominic > > FUTURE DAUGHTERS NAME? HANNAH or Holly > > **Have You Ever** > > BEEN IN LOVE? Yes, still am… > > HAD A BROKEN HEART? Yes 3 times by the same person. > > BROKE SOMEONES HEART? No NEVER, I aint like some saddo’s > > BROKEN THE LAW? Yes, got fined for not having a TV Licence. > > BEEN IN PRISON? Nope, wouldnt want to think about it… > > RAN AWAY FROM HOME? Yes, when i was 14, wanted affection and attention > from > > parents but didnt get it so i did a runner. > > CHEATED ON A TEST? Nope, wouldnt Dream of it… > > HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY?Nope, Not Even after giving birth to 4 kids lol > > GONE TO HEAVEN AND BACK?Oh Yeh Many of times… thanx > > YAWNED DURING SEX? Erm Not that i recall > > BEEN MARRIED? Nope, Dreamed & Wished of it but not yet experienced > it…. > > Maybe Some Day I Will ) Aint that Right Sludgebox??? > > HAD SEX IN THE SHOWER? Oh yes, What a wonderful experience. > > **Do You Believe In…** > > LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT? Yes…   If i had got asked that a year ago i would > of > > said not a chance > > GOD? Nope. > > ALIENS? Erm Nope, seen a few in my time but NO. > > GHOSTS? Yes funny enough, But never seen one > > HOROSCOPES? Yes, Sometimes when they say what i want to hear… > > MAGIC? Not really, but sometimes its a Mystery > > MIRACLES? Yes, Im living mine Now > > HELL? Yes, I use to LIVE there… > > HEAVEN? Yes, That is exactly where i am 24/7 > > YOURSELF? Yes, I do now… > > **Which One?** > > IN THE CAR…Air Conditioning? OR OPEN WINDOWS? Open windows coz Dust > fly’s > > out of the air vents, not NICE… Sore eyes > > PEN OR PENCIL? Pen, Black mainly > > CHOCOLATE OR VANILLA? Vanilla > > COKE OR PEPSI? Pepsi, totally addicted > > MILK? OR CHOCOLATE MILK? Milk… Less said… > > ORANGES OR APPLES? Apples without the skin > > ADDIDAS, NIKE OR REEBOK? Reebok. > > BLONDES, BRUNETTES OR REDHEADS? Any Including grey Not really fussy as > long > > as its there own… > > TALL OR SHORT? Not fussy as long as there Genuine… > > TV OR RADIO? Radio, never anything on TV… > > T.SHIRTS OR SHIRTS? T.shirts > > JEANS OR TROUSERS? Jeans > > SINGLE OR DOUBLE BED? King size will do me fine > > ***What…*** > > WHAT IS THE BEST THING THAT HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY? Made Love… what > > else??? > > WHAT WAS THE WORST THING? I Cried On My Darlings Shoulder… Awww > Bless… > > WHATS THE FIRST THING YOU THOUGHT OF WHEN YOU WOKE UP THIS MORNING?. I > Need > > A Pee… > > WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER MOST ABOUT THE PAST YEAR? Meeting the man i dreamt > of thought > it > > was possible for a man to have a fairytale lifestyle with the affection > and > > a whole bunch of loving to give… Thanx Sludgebox > > WHATS ON YOUR MOUSE PAD? A Mouse Silly > > WHAT IS THE WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD? Not being able to Help Others In > > NEED > > WHAT IS THE BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD? Being Loved & respected… > > WHAT KIND OF SHOE WOULD YOU BE? A trainer, but wouldnt aloow to be > walked > on > > > > WHATS UNDER YOUR BED? Erm dust & More Dust and oh not forgetting My > Vibrator > > lol (I NO BOB IS GUNNA LAUGH AT THIS) My Sugar Daddy that is… > > WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE NUMBER? 9 > > WHATS ON THE WALLS IN YOUR ROOM? Erm Wallpaper, cob webs the odd spider > and > > My Partner in a few minutes > > WHAT DO YOUR WEAR TO BED? Absolutley Nothing, Aint that right > Sludgebox… > > WHAT ARE YOU WEARING RIGHT NOW? Erm Im Naked > > WHAT SIZE SHOE ARE YOU? 7 > > WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE ANIMAL? Cat, How much purrrfect can you get > > WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PERSON THAT SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE??? Well > I > > think i am great, loveable and a bubbly bundle of laughs thanx for > asking… > > > > **Favourites** > > TV SHOWS? Jerry Springer > > GAME? Monopoly, Keeps me for hours > > FRIEND? My Partner, who is My Best Friend too. > > SHAMPOO? Vosene > > BOOK? Romance & Murder Mystery > > MAGAZINE? Take-a-Break > > DRINK? Lager, Blue wicked & Tequilla the Mexican Style > > SOUND? Heavy Breathing in my Right EAR during Making Love. > > SMELL? My partner… > > SOUNDTRACK? Pink Floyd – The Wall > > BRAND OF GUM? Airways Bloody strong Mint makes my nose hurt > > MOVIE? Titanic, City of Angels & What Dreams May Come with Robin > williams, > > its a got to see if you havent > > ***About The Opposite SEX*** > > WHAT DO YOU NOTICE FIRST? The Eyes > >  HAIR CURLY OR STRAIGHT? Not Fussy Ok Ok Straight haha > > HAIR LONG OR SHORT? Definatly Not fussy > > WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DO YOU FIND ROMANTIC? Meal for 2, Walking the beach > arm > > in arm, PIT STOPS (Kissing & Cuddling) > > THINGS YOU LOVE MOST ABOUT THEM? Personalty, GSOH, Being themselves > > EYES: BLUE, GREEN, BROWN OR HAZEL? What ever comes my way… Erm Love > Green > > But Prefer BLUE… > > ***Do You*** > > DO YOU BITE YOUR NAILS? Nope, Got to keep them long For scratching My > > Partners back during Mad Passionate Love lol > > DO YOU HAVE TATTOOS? IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? Yes, one on each arm, a > Devil > > with My all My Sons Names round it and Cupid for my Daughter Also one > on > > my back of a Fairy all beautiful Colours that i chose myself > > DO YOU HAVE PIERCINGS?IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? Yes, 1 on my eye brow, > > although i think you should ask sludgebox how many he has… lol > > DO YOU HAVE A PARTNER? Oh Yes & im going to hold on tight to him, > apparently > > i have to fasten my seat belt > > DO YOU PREFER LIGHT ON OR OFF? Off, Cant see my skin lol > > DO YOU OWN A MOBILE OR CELLULAR? IF SO CAN I HAVE YOUR NUMBER??? Yes i > have > > a Mobile, No You cant have the Number. > > DO YOU SEE YOURSELF EVER GETTING MARRIED ONE DAY? OR AGAIN? Erm for 1 i > have > > never been married and 2 I see myself getting Married in the near Future > > DO YOU PREFER BATH OR SHOWER? Shower, for some reason you feel > fresher… > > ***Who*** > > IS YOUR BIGGEST CRUSH RIGHT NOW? Yes, Most Definetly > > DO YOU HATE? Yes, Only people who hurt me and my feelings… > > SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE? AND IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT > > THIS PERSON? I sent this questionairre and i would like to say I put > alot > of > > time and effort into this Questionairre & Im happy with the results > > WHO HAS IT EASIER GUYS OR GIRLS?  Guys definetly, they dont have to go > > through half of what women do, they dont have to think about anything > coz > as > > far as they are concerned there free to do as they please.  Well i do > have > > to admit My partner aint anything like most men, thats why i love him so > > much…Although i think Most men should learn to live up to there > > Responsibilities > > "FAVOURITE QUOTE?" > > When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long > and > so > > regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open > for > > us…

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  Jeez there are some funny people in here aint there, it was only to brighten the room, it didnt mean you had to fill all in just wanted to cheer ya all up. soz for bothering.

  – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> To me this seems like a shameless attempt to gather info about NG members. > What that information would be good for, I have no idea, but personally I’ve > never seen you post before, and I’d be completely unwilling to fill out > anything like this for public review. > Q Tylenolhead > FIRST NAME: Sarah > GENDER:Female > BIRTH PLACE: Lincolnshire (Scunthorpe) > HEIGHT: 5ft 2" > EYE COLOUR:Brown > HAIR COLOUR & STYLE: Short Brown hair with Blonde Streaks > ZODIAC SIGN:Sagittarius > ARE YOU IN LOVE NOW? YES very much so… To sludgebox > IS THE GLASS HALF FULL OR HALF EMPTY? As long as it qwench’s my thirst i > dont care > RIGHTY, LEFTY, OR AMBIDEXTEROUS? Righty > ROLLERCOASTERS-DEADLY OR EXCITING? Deadly Exciting > **The Future** > WHERE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF IN 10 YEARS? Married With everything to LIVE > for… > HOME? 6 bedroomed house, with 2 bathrooms a swimming pool and a nice beach > i > can watch the sun set with the Love Of My Life. Oh sorry thats more of a > Dream Home but who knows i just may get what i wish for… > NUMBER OF KIDS?Married with 9 kids. Have 4 of my own and 3 from my > Partners > past Marriage. 2 more wouldnt be so bad… > FUTURE SONS NAME? Joshua or Dominic > FUTURE DAUGHTERS NAME? HANNAH or Holly > **Have You Ever** > BEEN IN LOVE? Yes, still am… > HAD A BROKEN HEART? Yes 3 times by the same person. > BROKE SOMEONES HEART? No NEVER, I aint like some saddo’s > BROKEN THE LAW? Yes, got fined for not having a TV Licence. > BEEN IN PRISON? Nope, wouldnt want to think about it… > RAN AWAY FROM HOME? Yes, when i was 14, wanted affection and attention > from > parents but didnt get it so i did a runner. > CHEATED ON A TEST? Nope, wouldnt Dream of it… > HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY?Nope, Not Even after giving birth to 4 kids lol > GONE TO HEAVEN AND BACK?Oh Yeh Many of times… thanx > YAWNED DURING SEX? Erm Not that i recall > BEEN MARRIED? Nope, Dreamed & Wished of it but not yet experienced it…. > Maybe Some Day I Will ) Aint that Right Sludgebox??? > HAD SEX IN THE SHOWER? Oh yes, What a wonderful experience. > **Do You Believe In…** > LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT? Yes…   If i had got asked that a year ago i would > of > said not a chance > GOD? Nope. > ALIENS? Erm Nope, seen a few in my time but NO. > GHOSTS? Yes funny enough, But never seen one > HOROSCOPES? Yes, Sometimes when they say what i want to hear… > MAGIC? Not really, but sometimes its a Mystery > MIRACLES? Yes, Im living mine Now > HELL? Yes, I use to LIVE there… > HEAVEN? Yes, That is exactly where i am 24/7 > YOURSELF? Yes, I do now… > **Which One?** > IN THE CAR…Air Conditioning? OR OPEN WINDOWS? Open windows coz Dust > fly’s > out of the air vents, not NICE… Sore eyes > PEN OR PENCIL? Pen, Black mainly > CHOCOLATE OR VANILLA? Vanilla > COKE OR PEPSI? Pepsi, totally addicted > MILK? OR CHOCOLATE MILK? Milk… Less said… > ORANGES OR APPLES? Apples without the skin > ADDIDAS, NIKE OR REEBOK? Reebok. > BLONDES, BRUNETTES OR REDHEADS? Any Including grey Not really fussy as > long > as its there own… > TALL OR SHORT? Not fussy as long as there Genuine… > TV OR RADIO? Radio, never anything on TV… > T.SHIRTS OR SHIRTS? T.shirts > JEANS OR TROUSERS? Jeans > SINGLE OR DOUBLE BED? King size will do me fine > ***What…*** > WHAT IS THE BEST THING THAT HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY? Made Love…  what > else??? > WHAT WAS THE WORST THING? I Cried On My Darlings Shoulder… Awww Bless… > WHATS THE FIRST THING YOU THOUGHT OF WHEN YOU WOKE UP THIS MORNING?. I > Need > A Pee… > WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER MOST ABOUT THE PAST YEAR? Meeting the man i dreamt of it > was possible for a man to have a fairytale lifestyle with the affection > and > a whole bunch of loving to give… Thanx Sludgebox > WHATS ON YOUR MOUSE PAD? A Mouse Silly > WHAT IS THE WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD? Not being able to Help Others In > NEED > WHAT IS THE BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD? Being Loved & respected… > WHAT KIND OF SHOE WOULD YOU BE? A trainer, but wouldnt aloow to be walked > on > > WHATS UNDER YOUR BED? Erm dust & More Dust and oh not forgetting My > Vibrator > lol (I NO BOB IS GUNNA LAUGH AT THIS) My Sugar Daddy that is… > WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE NUMBER? 9 > WHATS ON THE WALLS IN YOUR ROOM? Erm Wallpaper, cob webs the odd spider > and > My Partner in a few minutes > WHAT DO YOUR WEAR TO BED? Absolutley Nothing, Aint that right Sludgebox… > WHAT ARE YOU WEARING RIGHT NOW? Erm Im Naked > WHAT SIZE SHOE ARE YOU? 7 > WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE ANIMAL? Cat, How much purrrfect can you get > WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PERSON THAT SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE??? Well I > think i am great, loveable and a bubbly bundle of laughs thanx for > asking… > > **Favourites** > TV SHOWS? Jerry Springer > GAME? Monopoly, Keeps me for hours > FRIEND? My Partner, who is My Best Friend too. > SHAMPOO? Vosene > BOOK? Romance & Murder Mystery > MAGAZINE? Take-a-Break > DRINK? Lager, Blue wicked & Tequilla the Mexican Style > SOUND? Heavy Breathing in my Right EAR during Making Love. > SMELL? My partner… > SOUNDTRACK? Pink Floyd – The Wall > BRAND OF GUM? Airways Bloody strong Mint makes my nose hurt > MOVIE? Titanic, City of Angels & What Dreams May Come with Robin williams, > its a got to see if you havent > ***About The Opposite SEX*** > WHAT DO YOU NOTICE FIRST? The Eyes >  HAIR CURLY OR STRAIGHT? Not Fussy Ok Ok Straight haha > HAIR LONG OR SHORT? Definatly Not fussy > WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DO YOU FIND ROMANTIC? Meal for 2, Walking the beach > arm > in arm, PIT STOPS (Kissing & Cuddling) > THINGS YOU LOVE MOST ABOUT THEM? Personalty, GSOH, Being themselves > EYES: BLUE, GREEN, BROWN OR HAZEL? What ever comes my way… Erm Love > Green > But Prefer BLUE… > ***Do You*** > DO YOU BITE YOUR NAILS? Nope, Got to keep them long For scratching My > Partners back during Mad Passionate Love lol > DO YOU HAVE TATTOOS? IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? Yes, one on each arm, a > Devil > with My all My Sons Names round it and Cupid for my Daughter Also one > on > my back of a Fairy all beautiful Colours that i chose myself > DO YOU HAVE PIERCINGS?IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? Yes, 1 on my eye brow, > although i think you should ask sludgebox how many he has… lol > DO YOU HAVE A PARTNER? Oh Yes & im going to hold on tight to him, > apparently > i have to fasten my seat belt > DO YOU PREFER LIGHT ON OR OFF? Off, Cant see my skin lol > DO YOU OWN A MOBILE OR CELLULAR? IF SO CAN I HAVE YOUR NUMBER??? Yes i > have > a Mobile, No You cant have the Number. > DO YOU SEE YOURSELF EVER GETTING MARRIED ONE DAY? OR AGAIN? Erm for 1 i > have > never been married and 2 I see myself getting Married in the near Future > DO YOU PREFER BATH OR SHOWER? Shower, for some reason you feel fresher… > ***Who*** > IS YOUR BIGGEST CRUSH RIGHT NOW? Yes, Most Definetly > DO YOU HATE? Yes, Only people who hurt me and my feelings… > SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE? AND IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT > THIS PERSON? I sent this questionairre and i would like to say I put alot > of > time and effort into this Questionairre & Im happy with the results > WHO HAS IT EASIER GUYS OR GIRLS?  Guys definetly, they dont have to go > through half of what women do, they dont have to think about anything coz > as > far as they are concerned there free to do as they please.  Well i do have > to admit My partner aint anything like most men, thats why i love him so > much…Although i think Most men should learn to live up to there > Responsibilities > "FAVOURITE QUOTE?" > When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long and > so > regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open > for > us…

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  To me this seems like a shameless attempt to gather info about NG members. What that information would be good for, I have no idea, but personally I’ve never seen you post before, and I’d be completely unwilling to fill out anything like this for public review. Q Tylenolhead – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > FIRST NAME: Sarah > GENDER:Female > BIRTH PLACE: Lincolnshire (Scunthorpe) > HEIGHT: 5ft 2" > EYE COLOUR:Brown > HAIR COLOUR & STYLE: Short Brown hair with Blonde Streaks > ZODIAC SIGN:Sagittarius > ARE YOU IN LOVE NOW? YES very much so… To sludgebox > IS THE GLASS HALF FULL OR HALF EMPTY? As long as it qwench’s my thirst i > dont care > RIGHTY, LEFTY, OR AMBIDEXTEROUS? Righty > ROLLERCOASTERS-DEADLY OR EXCITING? Deadly Exciting > **The Future** > WHERE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF IN 10 YEARS? Married With everything to LIVE > for… > HOME? 6 bedroomed house, with 2 bathrooms a swimming pool and a nice beach i > can watch the sun set with the Love Of My Life. Oh sorry thats more of a > Dream Home but who knows i just may get what i wish for… > NUMBER OF KIDS?Married with 9 kids. Have 4 of my own and 3 from my Partners > past Marriage. 2 more wouldnt be so bad… > FUTURE SONS NAME? Joshua or Dominic > FUTURE DAUGHTERS NAME? HANNAH or Holly > **Have You Ever** > BEEN IN LOVE? Yes, still am… > HAD A BROKEN HEART? Yes 3 times by the same person. > BROKE SOMEONES HEART? No NEVER, I aint like some saddo’s > BROKEN THE LAW? Yes, got fined for not having a TV Licence. > BEEN IN PRISON? Nope, wouldnt want to think about it… > RAN AWAY FROM HOME? Yes, when i was 14, wanted affection and attention from > parents but didnt get it so i did a runner. > CHEATED ON A TEST? Nope, wouldnt Dream of it… > HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY?Nope, Not Even after giving birth to 4 kids lol > GONE TO HEAVEN AND BACK?Oh Yeh Many of times… thanx > YAWNED DURING SEX? Erm Not that i recall > BEEN MARRIED? Nope, Dreamed & Wished of it but not yet experienced it…. > Maybe Some Day I Will ) Aint that Right Sludgebox??? > HAD SEX IN THE SHOWER? Oh yes, What a wonderful experience. > **Do You Believe In…** > LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT? Yes…   If i had got asked that a year ago i would of > said not a chance > GOD? Nope. > ALIENS? Erm Nope, seen a few in my time but NO. > GHOSTS? Yes funny enough, But never seen one > HOROSCOPES? Yes, Sometimes when they say what i want to hear… > MAGIC? Not really, but sometimes its a Mystery > MIRACLES? Yes, Im living mine Now > HELL? Yes, I use to LIVE there… > HEAVEN? Yes, That is exactly where i am 24/7 > YOURSELF? Yes, I do now… > **Which One?** > IN THE CAR…Air Conditioning? OR OPEN WINDOWS? Open windows coz Dust fly’s > out of the air vents, not NICE… Sore eyes > PEN OR PENCIL? Pen, Black mainly > CHOCOLATE OR VANILLA? Vanilla > COKE OR PEPSI? Pepsi, totally addicted > MILK? OR CHOCOLATE MILK? Milk… Less said… > ORANGES OR APPLES? Apples without the skin > ADDIDAS, NIKE OR REEBOK? Reebok. > BLONDES, BRUNETTES OR REDHEADS? Any Including grey Not really fussy as long > as its there own… > TALL OR SHORT? Not fussy as long as there Genuine… > TV OR RADIO? Radio, never anything on TV… > T.SHIRTS OR SHIRTS? T.shirts > JEANS OR TROUSERS? Jeans > SINGLE OR DOUBLE BED? King size will do me fine > ***What…*** > WHAT IS THE BEST THING THAT HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY? Made Love…  what > else??? > WHAT WAS THE WORST THING? I Cried On My Darlings Shoulder… Awww Bless… > WHATS THE FIRST THING YOU THOUGHT OF WHEN YOU WOKE UP THIS MORNING?. I Need > A Pee… > WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER MOST ABOUT THE PAST YEAR? Meeting the man i dreamt of > was possible for a man to have a fairytale lifestyle with the affection and > a whole bunch of loving to give… Thanx Sludgebox > WHATS ON YOUR MOUSE PAD? A Mouse Silly > WHAT IS THE WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD? Not being able to Help Others In > NEED > WHAT IS THE BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD? Being Loved & respected… > WHAT KIND OF SHOE WOULD YOU BE? A trainer, but wouldnt aloow to be walked on > > WHATS UNDER YOUR BED? Erm dust & More Dust and oh not forgetting My Vibrator > lol (I NO BOB IS GUNNA LAUGH AT THIS) My Sugar Daddy that is… > WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE NUMBER? 9 > WHATS ON THE WALLS IN YOUR ROOM? Erm Wallpaper, cob webs the odd spider and > My Partner in a few minutes > WHAT DO YOUR WEAR TO BED? Absolutley Nothing, Aint that right Sludgebox… > WHAT ARE YOU WEARING RIGHT NOW? Erm Im Naked > WHAT SIZE SHOE ARE YOU? 7 > WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE ANIMAL? Cat, How much purrrfect can you get > WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PERSON THAT SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE??? Well I > think i am great, loveable and a bubbly bundle of laughs thanx for asking… > > **Favourites** > TV SHOWS? Jerry Springer > GAME? Monopoly, Keeps me for hours > FRIEND? My Partner, who is My Best Friend too. > SHAMPOO? Vosene > BOOK? Romance & Murder Mystery > MAGAZINE? Take-a-Break > DRINK? Lager, Blue wicked & Tequilla the Mexican Style > SOUND? Heavy Breathing in my Right EAR during Making Love. > SMELL? My partner… > SOUNDTRACK? Pink Floyd – The Wall > BRAND OF GUM? Airways Bloody strong Mint makes my nose hurt > MOVIE? Titanic, City of Angels & What Dreams May Come with Robin williams, > its a got to see if you havent > ***About The Opposite SEX*** > WHAT DO YOU NOTICE FIRST? The Eyes >  HAIR CURLY OR STRAIGHT? Not Fussy Ok Ok Straight haha > HAIR LONG OR SHORT? Definatly Not fussy > WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DO YOU FIND ROMANTIC? Meal for 2, Walking the beach arm > in arm, PIT STOPS (Kissing & Cuddling) > THINGS YOU LOVE MOST ABOUT THEM? Personalty, GSOH, Being themselves > EYES: BLUE, GREEN, BROWN OR HAZEL? What ever comes my way… Erm Love Green > But Prefer BLUE… > ***Do You*** > DO YOU BITE YOUR NAILS? Nope, Got to keep them long For scratching My > Partners back during Mad Passionate Love lol > DO YOU HAVE TATTOOS? IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? Yes, one on each arm, a Devil > with My all My Sons Names round it and Cupid for my Daughter Also one on > my back of a Fairy all beautiful Colours that i chose myself > DO YOU HAVE PIERCINGS?IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? Yes, 1 on my eye brow, > although i think you should ask sludgebox how many he has… lol > DO YOU HAVE A PARTNER? Oh Yes & im going to hold on tight to him, apparently > i have to fasten my seat belt > DO YOU PREFER LIGHT ON OR OFF? Off, Cant see my skin lol > DO YOU OWN A MOBILE OR CELLULAR? IF SO CAN I HAVE YOUR NUMBER??? Yes i have > a Mobile, No You cant have the Number. > DO YOU SEE YOURSELF EVER GETTING MARRIED ONE DAY? OR AGAIN? Erm for 1 i have > never been married and 2 I see myself getting Married in the near Future > DO YOU PREFER BATH OR SHOWER? Shower, for some reason you feel fresher… > ***Who*** > IS YOUR BIGGEST CRUSH RIGHT NOW? Yes, Most Definetly > DO YOU HATE? Yes, Only people who hurt me and my feelings… > SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE? AND IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT > THIS PERSON? I sent this questionairre and i would like to say I put alot of > time and effort into this Questionairre & Im happy with the results > WHO HAS IT EASIER GUYS OR GIRLS?  Guys definetly, they dont have to go > through half of what women do, they dont have to think about anything coz as > far as they are concerned there free to do as they please.  Well i do have > to admit My partner aint anything like most men, thats why i love him so > much…Although i think Most men should learn to live up to there > Responsibilities > "FAVOURITE QUOTE?" > When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long and so > regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open for > us…

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  FIRST NAME: Sarah GENDER:Female BIRTH PLACE: Lincolnshire (Scunthorpe) HEIGHT: 5ft 2" EYE COLOUR:Brown HAIR COLOUR & STYLE: Short Brown hair with Blonde Streaks ZODIAC SIGN:Sagittarius ARE YOU IN LOVE NOW? YES very much so… To sludgebox IS THE GLASS HALF FULL OR HALF EMPTY? As long as it qwench’s my thirst i dont care RIGHTY, LEFTY, OR AMBIDEXTEROUS? Righty ROLLERCOASTERS-DEADLY OR EXCITING? Deadly Exciting **The Future** WHERE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF IN 10 YEARS? Married With everything to LIVE for… HOME? 6 bedroomed house, with 2 bathrooms a swimming pool and a nice beach i can watch the sun set with the Love Of My Life. Oh sorry thats more of a Dream Home but who knows i just may get what i wish for… NUMBER OF KIDS?Married with 9 kids. Have 4 of my own and 3 from my Partners past Marriage. 2 more wouldnt be so bad… FUTURE SONS NAME? Joshua or Dominic FUTURE DAUGHTERS NAME? HANNAH or Holly **Have You Ever** BEEN IN LOVE? Yes, still am… HAD A BROKEN HEART? Yes 3 times by the same person. BROKE SOMEONES HEART? No NEVER, I aint like some saddo’s BROKEN THE LAW? Yes, got fined for not having a TV Licence. BEEN IN PRISON? Nope, wouldnt want to think about it… RAN AWAY FROM HOME? Yes, when i was 14, wanted affection and attention from parents but didnt get it so i did a runner. CHEATED ON A TEST? Nope, wouldnt Dream of it… HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY?Nope, Not Even after giving birth to 4 kids lol GONE TO HEAVEN AND BACK?Oh Yeh Many of times… thanx YAWNED DURING SEX? Erm Not that i recall BEEN MARRIED? Nope, Dreamed & Wished of it but not yet experienced it…. Maybe Some Day I Will ) Aint that Right Sludgebox??? HAD SEX IN THE SHOWER? Oh yes, What a wonderful experience. **Do You Believe In…** LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT? Yes…   If i had got asked that a year ago i would of said not a chance GOD? Nope. ALIENS? Erm Nope, seen a few in my time but NO. GHOSTS? Yes funny enough, But never seen one HOROSCOPES? Yes, Sometimes when they say what i want to hear… MAGIC? Not really, but sometimes its a Mystery MIRACLES? Yes, Im living mine Now HELL? Yes, I use to LIVE there… HEAVEN? Yes, That is exactly where i am 24/7 YOURSELF? Yes, I do now… **Which One?** IN THE CAR…Air Conditioning? OR OPEN WINDOWS? Open windows coz Dust fly’s out of the air vents, not NICE… Sore eyes PEN OR PENCIL? Pen, Black mainly CHOCOLATE OR VANILLA? Vanilla COKE OR PEPSI? Pepsi, totally addicted MILK? OR CHOCOLATE MILK? Milk… Less said… ORANGES OR APPLES? Apples without the skin ADDIDAS, NIKE OR REEBOK? Reebok. BLONDES, BRUNETTES OR REDHEADS? Any Including grey Not really fussy as long as its there own… TALL OR SHORT? Not fussy as long as there Genuine… TV OR RADIO? Radio, never anything on TV… T.SHIRTS OR SHIRTS? T.shirts JEANS OR TROUSERS? Jeans SINGLE OR DOUBLE BED? King size will do me fine ***What…*** WHAT IS THE BEST THING THAT HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY? Made Love…  what else??? WHAT WAS THE WORST THING? I Cried On My Darlings Shoulder… Awww Bless… WHATS THE FIRST THING YOU THOUGHT OF WHEN YOU WOKE UP THIS MORNING?. I Need A Pee… WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER MOST ABOUT THE PAST YEAR? Meeting the man i dreamt of was possible for a man to have a fairytale lifestyle with the affection and a whole bunch of loving to give… Thanx Sludgebox WHATS ON YOUR MOUSE PAD? A Mouse Silly WHAT IS THE WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD? Not being able to Help Others In NEED WHAT IS THE BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD? Being Loved & respected… WHAT KIND OF SHOE WOULD YOU BE? A trainer, but wouldnt aloow to be walked on WHATS UNDER YOUR BED? Erm dust & More Dust and oh not forgetting My Vibrator lol (I NO BOB IS GUNNA LAUGH AT THIS) My Sugar Daddy that is… WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE NUMBER? 9 WHATS ON THE WALLS IN YOUR ROOM? Erm Wallpaper, cob webs the odd spider and My Partner in a few minutes WHAT DO YOUR WEAR TO BED? Absolutley Nothing, Aint that right Sludgebox… WHAT ARE YOU WEARING RIGHT NOW? Erm Im Naked WHAT SIZE SHOE ARE YOU? 7 WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE ANIMAL? Cat, How much purrrfect can you get WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PERSON THAT SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE??? Well I think i am great, loveable and a bubbly bundle of laughs thanx for asking… **Favourites** TV SHOWS? Jerry Springer GAME? Monopoly, Keeps me for hours FRIEND? My Partner, who is My Best Friend too. SHAMPOO? Vosene BOOK? Romance & Murder Mystery MAGAZINE? Take-a-Break DRINK? Lager, Blue wicked & Tequilla the Mexican Style SOUND? Heavy Breathing in my Right EAR during Making Love. SMELL? My partner… SOUNDTRACK? Pink Floyd – The Wall BRAND OF GUM? Airways Bloody strong Mint makes my nose hurt MOVIE? Titanic, City of Angels & What Dreams May Come with Robin williams, its a got to see if you havent ***About The Opposite SEX*** WHAT DO YOU NOTICE FIRST? The Eyes  HAIR CURLY OR STRAIGHT? Not Fussy Ok Ok Straight haha HAIR LONG OR SHORT? Definatly Not fussy WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DO YOU FIND ROMANTIC? Meal for 2, Walking the beach arm in arm, PIT STOPS (Kissing & Cuddling) THINGS YOU LOVE MOST ABOUT THEM? Personalty, GSOH, Being themselves EYES: BLUE, GREEN, BROWN OR HAZEL? What ever comes my way… Erm Love Green But Prefer BLUE… ***Do You*** DO YOU BITE YOUR NAILS? Nope, Got to keep them long For scratching My Partners back during Mad Passionate Love lol DO YOU HAVE TATTOOS? IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? Yes, one on each arm, a Devil with My all My Sons Names round it and Cupid for my Daughter Also one on my back of a Fairy all beautiful Colours that i chose myself DO YOU HAVE PIERCINGS?IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? Yes, 1 on my eye brow, although i think you should ask sludgebox how many he has… lol DO YOU HAVE A PARTNER? Oh Yes & im going to hold on tight to him, apparently i have to fasten my seat belt DO YOU PREFER LIGHT ON OR OFF? Off, Cant see my skin lol DO YOU OWN A MOBILE OR CELLULAR? IF SO CAN I HAVE YOUR NUMBER??? Yes i have a Mobile, No You cant have the Number. DO YOU SEE YOURSELF EVER GETTING MARRIED ONE DAY? OR AGAIN? Erm for 1 i have never been married and 2 I see myself getting Married in the near Future DO YOU PREFER BATH OR SHOWER? Shower, for some reason you feel fresher… ***Who*** IS YOUR BIGGEST CRUSH RIGHT NOW? Yes, Most Definetly DO YOU HATE? Yes, Only people who hurt me and my feelings… SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE? AND IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS PERSON? I sent this questionairre and i would like to say I put alot of time and effort into this Questionairre & Im happy with the results WHO HAS IT EASIER GUYS OR GIRLS?  Guys definetly, they dont have to go through half of what women do, they dont have to think about anything coz as far as they are concerned there free to do as they please.  Well i do have to admit My partner aint anything like most men, thats why i love him so much…Although i think Most men should learn to live up to there Responsibilities "FAVOURITE QUOTE?" When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open for us…

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  Its been quiet in here today so thought you all might like cheering up with my questionaire??? Upto you… Anyone With time on there hands? Fancy doing a QUESTIONAIRRE? Well heres one i prepared earlier, of cors i will answer them myself and add to group ASAP Thanx Pip x Send this to a whole bunch of people you know INCLUDING the person who sent it to you when complete… The theory is that you will learn a lot of little known facts about your friends. Remember to send it back to the person who sent it to you. FIRST NAME: GENDER: BIRTH PLACE: HEIGHT: EYE COLOUR: HAIR COLOUR & STYLE: ZODIAC SIGN: ARE YOU IN LOVE NOW? IS THE GLASS HALF FULL OR HALF EMPTY? RIGHTY, LEFTY, OR AMBIDEXTEROUS? ROLLERCOASTERS-DEADLY OR EXCITING? **The Future** WHERE DO YOU SEE YOURSELF IN 10 YEARS? HOME? NUMBER OF KIDS? FUTURE SONS NAME? FUTURE DAUGHTERS NAME? **Have You Ever** BEEN IN LOVE? HAD A BROKEN HEART? BROKE SOMEONES HEART? BROKEN THE LAW? BEEN IN PRISON? RAN AWAY FROM HOME? CHEATED ON A TEST? HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY? GONE TO HEAVEN AND BACK? YAWNED DURING SEX? BEEN MARRIED? HAD SEX IN THE SHOWER? **Do You Believe In…** LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT? GOD? ALIENS? GHOSTS? HOROSCOPES? MAGIC? MIRACLES? HELL? HEAVEN? YOURSELF? **Which One?** IN THE CAR…Air Conditioning? OR OPEN WINDOWS? PEN OR PENCIL? CHOCOLATE OR VANILLA? COKE OR PEPSI? MILK? OR CHOCOLATE MILK? ORANGES OR APPLES? ADDIDAS, NIKE OR REEBOK? BLONDES, BRUNETTES OR REDHEADS? TALL OR SHORT? TV OR RADIO? T.SHIRTS OR SHIRTS? JEANS OR TROUSERS? SINGLE OR DOUBLE BED? ***What…*** WHAT IS THE BEST THING THAT HAPPENED TO YOU TODAY? WHAT WAS THE WORST THING? WHATS THE FIRST THING YOU THOUGHT OF WHEN YOU WOKE UP THIS MORNING?. WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER MOST ABOUT THE PAST YEAR? WHATS ON YOUR MOUSE PAD? WHAT IS THE WORST FEELING IN THE WORLD? WHAT IS THE BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD? WHAT KIND OF SHOE WOULD YOU BE? WHATS UNDER YOUR BED? WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE NUMBER? WHATS ON THE WALLS IN YOUR ROOM? WHAT DO YOUR WEAR TO BED? WHAT ARE YOU WEARING RIGHT NOW? WHAT SIZE SHOE ARE YOU? WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE ANIMAL? WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PERSON THAT SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE??? **Favourites** TV SHOWS? GAME? FRIEND? SHAMPOO? BOOK? MAGAZINE? DRINK? SOUND? SMELL? SOUNDTRACK? BRAND OF GUM? MOVIE? ***About The Opposite SEX*** WHAT DO YOU NOTICE FIRST?  HAIR CURLY OR STRAIGHT? HAIR LONG OR SHORT? WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DO YOU FIND ROMANTIC? THINGS YOU LOVE MOST ABOUT THEM? EYES: BLUE, GREEN, BROWN OR HAZEL? ***Do You*** DO YOU BITE YOUR NAILS? DO YOU HAVE TATTOOS? IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? DO YOU HAVE PIERCINGS?IF SO HOW MANY AND WHERE? DO YOU HAVE A PARTNER? DO YOU PREFER LIGHT ON OR OFF? DO YOU OWN A MOBILE OR CELLULAR? IF SO CAN I HAVE YOUR NUMBER??? DO YOU SEE YOURSELF EVER GETTING MARRIED ONE DAY? OR AGAIN? DO YOU PREFER BATH OR SHOWER? ***Who*** IS YOUR BIGGEST CRUSH RIGHT NOW? DO YOU HATE? SENT YOU THIS QUESTIONAIRRE? AND IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS PERSON? WHO HAS IT EASIER GUYS OR GIRLS? "FAVOURITE QUOTE?" — Cherish your health. If it is good, preserve it. If it is unstable, improve it. If it is beyond what you can improve, get help. At every opportunity, tell the people you love… that you love them As Often As Possible. You Never know whats Round the Corner. *Sludgebox & Pip*

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